He wants the government to tell private business what to do only when it suits his needs.
General Where do you stand on the "bakers being forced to bake gay marriage cakes" thing?
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But you want the government to enforce this decency. You do understand what is going on with the lawmakers and their decency right now dont you. Its a do as I say not as I do system.
totally agree, and a White/Black/Whatever Only business would die a quick death.
I think we should let the free market of ideas force the extinction of certain ways of thinking, instead of giving the men in fancy hats permission to coerce people with their monopoly on violence.
why would you want to force someone who doesnt want to to bake you a cake? do you want the best cake they ever made or one they are making because they have to with spit and pubes in it?like other people have said if someone clearly doesnt want to do business with you why would you want to give them any of your money?it probably isnt that hard to find gay friendly wedding cake bakers
good explanation here.
this gay sharia law shit gone on far too long.. if the baker don't want to bake a cake cuz you are gay then go find another baker.. $$ talks as im sure there are plenty of bakers who don't give a fuck if you are gay or w/e.. plus all they had to do was just order the cake without the names and have one of their interior decorator/make-up artist buddies add the names for them..
Oh no, they're gonna lose their homosexual customers. Bet that'll sting.
Where are they controlling? They bake cakes. They also happen to be in a religious sect that believes gays are sinners, and therefore it is against their religion to support it (ie. bake them a cake for their ceremony). They never said said the gays harmed them, they just won't make a ted and Steve wedding cake. If the gays want to come into the bakery and buy what is on the shelf, they are welcome. If they want the bakery to make them a custom order of 6,000 cookies (not ones that say ted and Steve with a heart), the bakery would not refuse service, but in this case it's for a wedding cake in a gay marriage. The bakery is saying no to that for reasons already stated. This is a private business, it goes against their religious beliefs, separation of church and state. I can't believe this is an issue. Ted and Steve should just take to yelp and badmouth the business and be done with it. Fucked if I want to to pay someone who I think is rude, someone who I think discriminates against me, and someone who on top of all things makes food I will be eating (I've worked in restaurants and you should never be rude, or you will be eating some additives off the menu).
On the flip side, who is controlling whom here?
If it's a cock and balls specialty, you would be correct, but it isnt.
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Not as bad as this hard pipe hitting motherfucker going medieval on your ass!
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@Leigh, handle this request please
Is there cake involved? No? Then I will allow it.
I was talking about the government trying to control the bakery.
I agree, they should be able to sell/not sell whatever they want to whomever they want for whatever reason they want.
No one should be entitled to anything.
I apologize for my misinterpretation.
And they haven't been asked to make a cock and balls cake, they've been asked to make a wedding cake. Which they DO specialise in.
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I'm Ginger/Strawberry blonde 
Let us live
#gingerblacklivesmatter
Let us live
#gingerblacklivesmatter
To take the point of view in the same light, should an artist (lol, artists are gay) be forced to do a painting for a gay couple signifying gay marriage if he/she is religiously against it? After all he/she paints pictures for a living, therefore, he/she should paint any picture requested?
Would this even be an issue if it was a Muslim cake shop owner? Not in this country at this point in time.
If the artist paints wedding pics then yes.
I don't see why religion is relevant. Religion is never an excuse to break the law.
Freedom of religion is part of this issue. The baker's religious views are against gay marriage because it is a sin in his church (just like many sects of various religions like orthodox jew, catholosism, evangelical christuan, latter day saints, jehovah's witnesses, and the theravada buddhist). Islam as a whole rejects the notion. So that is why this isn't just a simple case. You have freedom of religion as well as freedom of speech (whatever is requested to be written on the cake) both within the same case.
Religious freedom should not be part of the issue at all. I support religious freedom but it cannot be used to circumvent the law. You can't refuse to hire someone because they're black and claim your religion dictates it. You can't sacrifice humans because you're a devil worshipper.
Sexuality based discrimination is illegal for businesses serving the general public and religion is irrelevant.
You already agreed with me in principle.
This is a lawsuit that was escalated to the Supreme Court because of these complications. It isnt as simple as you you typed it out. This is why it is news.
HIDDEN CAMERA: Will Muslim Bakeries Make a Gay Wedding Cake?
Seems Christians and Muslims can at least agree on something. I know this was a satirical piece made by a loudmouth but the message was the same.
Seems Christians and Muslims can at least agree on something. I know this was a satirical piece made by a loudmouth but the message was the same.