Not the British???
General Jerusalem = New Israeli Capital
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^ yes that is another of the 'many factors'
USA and British and Zionists have all kinds of cooperative historical relations
A lot of you guys putting words in my mouth
USA and British and Zionists have all kinds of cooperative historical relations
A lot of you guys putting words in my mouth
Ok so those countries are the brothers of the Palestinians and they don't want them to have democracy but the Jewish people who they hate should sacrifice for them? Awesome
I have a good idea, let's get rid of the only democracy in the region. Oh wait, they tried and lost back in 1948.
Maybe they can go to Lybia, I've heard that now they are free from their dictator, it is paradise there. Or Egypt, they got rid of their bad guy there, I am sure there is nothing but a thriving nation waiting for them, oh wait... something about Islamic Brotherhood fucking that up? Blame the west!
More books were translated to Spanish last year than have been translated to Arabic in the last 1,000 years. The USA could have never interfered in any middle eastern country & the ones that are currently shitholes would've always been shitholes. They have a culture at least a millennia behind the times, blaming Jews & Americans for that is stupid
Not blaming 100%, of course there are many internal reasons why ME is not as developed as the west... just explaining some external factors that might contribute to the current state. Almost all of the ME over the past century has either had western-backed dictators set up, been bombed/invaded to kingdom come, starved via sanctions, or is being destroyed by proxy militias. Hard to grow much in that kind of environment... How do you figure that 'The USA could have never interfered in any middle eastern country'? have you not heard about this whole 'War on Terror' thing? Do you think it would be politically good for USA/Israel to just sit back and let the arab countries get super strong and organized and control their own resources?
I would say something similar happened to Africa, but if you wanna blame that on some kind of racial superiority go ahead
most of the debate here I am truthfully not really following, you guys are twisting it into something else
I would say something similar happened to Africa, but if you wanna blame that on some kind of racial superiority go ahead
most of the debate here I am truthfully not really following, you guys are twisting it into something else
Bullshit that the US supports Israel, and has fucked over the Middle east? How are either of those bullshit?
Yes ME has lots of money/oil, but they are all members of OPEC and work in full cooperation with the western banks and the Seven Sisters (Iran may be the exception but see what situ they are in...) & look what happened any time a ME nation tried to escape from that oligarchy and sell their own resources on their own terms (Libya, etc).
You have an answer for everything except the right things lol. Keep beating that drum, i will sit with my popcorn and watch.
I really don't get what you guys are arguing about really, I'm just stating basic facts & history
I don't have an answer for everything but have been trying to learn about this stuff for quite a few years now. If you think for example that its bullshit that US supports Israel you may be a little behind...
Sincerely not seeing where you guys are getting upset, or possibly misreading me.
I don't have an answer for everything but have been trying to learn about this stuff for quite a few years now. If you think for example that its bullshit that US supports Israel you may be a little behind...
Sincerely not seeing where you guys are getting upset, or possibly misreading me.
Youre love for a people of hate is what is shocking. You are trying to defend a bunch of people that have emphatically stated numerous times Jewish people should all be dead and Israel wiped out. You sit here trying to say who is bad and who is being mistreated. This isnt the Holocaust where innocent Jews are being round up. This is a country Israel constantly and always defending their right to exist in a place of non stop hate towards them. Im sorry I dont feel pity for them. We will not be bullied or ever ever have what happened during WW2 happen again because as I said 90 percent of the ME wants that.
Have tou ever spokeb ti a kid 3 years un?
What?
One of the fugwwa, likw lohling] hill.
Galt gets it
Do you see any parallels between what happened during WWII, and what is now happening to the Palestinians?
Are you really gonna lump ALL arabs together as 'a people of hate'? I'm not talking about picking sides in any broad racial issue here, I'm talking specific actions and physical realities and injustices NOW, not what happened over half a century ago in another part of the world, nor a few millennia ago. What is happening over there right now is really big news, that's just a reality and I find it interesting and worthy of discussion. You trying to twist my words into some kind of hate speech is exactly what has prevented people from being able to understand or discuss such things
If you knew me better you'd know I don't hate anyone
Do you see any parallels between what happened during WWII, and what is now happening to the Palestinians?
Are you really gonna lump ALL arabs together as 'a people of hate'? I'm not talking about picking sides in any broad racial issue here, I'm talking specific actions and physical realities and injustices NOW, not what happened over half a century ago in another part of the world, nor a few millennia ago. What is happening over there right now is really big news, that's just a reality and I find it interesting and worthy of discussion. You trying to twist my words into some kind of hate speech is exactly what has prevented people from being able to understand or discuss such things
If you knew me better you'd know I don't hate anyone
Since you my jewbrew, you gotta realized that you;'re influenced by your surroundings, It's worse than apartheid, if that was bad?
I understand where you are going with that but certain situations call for extreme measures depending on who you are dealing with. I love how people think oh just let them do their own things all will be good in the world lol.
And of course that darn oil. Colonialism. etc. Agreed. Oh, and Ghengis Khan also, maybe the worst of all.
I understand this fact, really. The hypocrisy is atoundung though.For me its realism same realpolitik, Don't need to be good. Aye?
I wish I understood Yossarian's posts better, lol
I honestly can't figure out when he's agreeing/disagreeing/mocking/or being sarcastic
I like his avatar though (too bad it dosn't move)
I honestly can't figure out when he's agreeing/disagreeing/mocking/or being sarcastic
I like his avatar though (too bad it dosn't move)
Fucking cool Dutchman from the low lands, cool cat.
Not upset here. I appreciate a good conversation and sometimes we just happen to disagree. Sometimes we need to throw down...
But after that...
I can understand that, I am often misunderstood, I am often mistaken for a Russian, or for a douchebag. I'm harmless though and really like everybody here, except for some weirdo I have blocked at the moment.
^ fuckin cheers bro!!
I am half dutch btw
Honestly not here to argue or win any debates or put anyone down. Just wanna share and learn. Some people just get really sensitive with certain issues, emotions and conditionings get in the way of rational discourse
I am half dutch btw
Honestly not here to argue or win any debates or put anyone down. Just wanna share and learn. Some people just get really sensitive with certain issues, emotions and conditionings get in the way of rational discourse
Its all very complicated because you are dealing with real people, emotions, sympathy, being realistic, and sometimes the answer to a solution isnt always the "right" way but it has to be done.
When people bring up the holocaust, or slavery, or apartheid, all those examples are all completely different that what is going on today for one major reason. Those people during those times did not show any signs of threatening anyone or anything like that. They were singled out because of color, and religion.