Pendred was a good fighter, and Gunner Nelson isn't exactly a bum, either. You want to talk about over rated and then mention Zahabi as being upper echelon? You serious?
I'm also in disbelief that you called Jackson over rated.
Pendred was a good fighter, and Gunner Nelson isn't exactly a bum, either. You want to talk about over rated and then mention Zahabi as being upper echelon? You serious?
I'm also in disbelief that you called Jackson over rated.
I'll sit here while you compile the list of Zahabi's title holders.
I can't remember all of Khabibs fights but iirc he's not really a game plan guy who's shown different looks. The fights I do remember he basically moves forward like a Terminator and banks on eventually getting them, taking them down and mauling them. It's been very effective so far but eventually he's gonna pay for it. Like you said I doubt Conor will land one ko shot to end it but I think he can land enough while moving back to make Khabib take some risks in order to grab him and that's where he'll get boxed up. Not a lock for either guy is my stance but I'm favouring McG until I see some more depth from Nurmie.All good points. I was mostly using the Mendes comp to show the volume of punches Conor needs to land to be affective. I was getting the impression from a lot of Conor's fans that Khabib won't be able to close the distance without getting ko'd.
I think it's an excellent fight. I think the way you describe McGregor winning the fight is a real possibility. I just feel like Conor will be a lot tighter than usual. He will not have as much creative freedom because I think that Khabib is uniquely capable of taking advantage of any mistakes Conor makes. I see Conor using that push kick to create as much distance as he can. I don't see him setting his feet, and commiting very much. I think Conor frustrating him with movement and picking away at him for a decision is a remote possibility.
I don't see Khabib walking him down as blatantly as he did against Barbosa. Barbosa is a more powerful but more one dimensional striker than Conor. Khabib was just worried about those head kicks. I think people are imagining Khabib with the same game plan and being a sitting duck for Conor. Khabib is a world class athlete and is going to be showing Conor some looks of his own.
I don't see McGregor finishing him and I don't think there is a chance in hell he can avoid getting taken down, and a takedown by Khabib means only two things, a) GNP finish or b) conceding the round and spending it on your back taking damage.
I really see it as Conor having a lot less room for error than Khabib does. 2nd round KO for Khabib.
Who at Jackson wink has a title?I'll sit here while you compile the list of Zahabi's title holders.
sorry I have to disagree partiallyThe Mendes fight isn't a accurate comparison. For 1 Conor was cutting like 25+ lbs to make 145. McGs cardio has been questionable for sure but that cut was killing him.
What Chad has over Khabib is a very effective way to close the distance with his power punches and speed, neither of those things are ever talked about when discussing Khabib. Also Chad is more of a TD, beat up, let back up and repeat where Khabib usually holds the guy down, much different styles so I don't think this comparison has much value.
I can't speak for anyone else but I don't see Conor landing one shot to finish anyone at LW or higher, that only worked for him at FW. What I do see Conor doing is landing multiple shots while Khabib walks straight forward as he knows that's all he can do to try and get ahold of him. That front kick he uses is awesome and once he can get Khabib worried about getting caught his shots will start to come from further and further away making for some easy pickings for McGregor.
The real threat is Tony. IMO he beats Khabib and Conor as of now.
#snapdowncity
I was thinking that a front kick would have aided Barbosa in keeping the distance, the way he was standing so upright....but alas, it is for another fight.That front kick he uses is awesome and once he can get Khabib worried about getting caught his shots will start to come from further and further away making for some easy pickings for McGregor.
Nova Uniao?The number of camps that have done it from outside the U.S. is, well, I believe it's exactly zero.
Ya I can't disagree about Conor looking pretty useless off his back. It's just getting him there, that's the issue. Khabib shouldn't bank on eating a few shots willingly to get to him. If he has other ways I haven't seen them yet.sorry I have to disagree partially
Khabib is a real threat...never lost
Tony is also a real threat
IMO both beat conor
CM has looked helpless on his back
Good point. Granted, I'm not sure how kind history will be to them.Nova Uniao?
As smart as you are handsome.Ya I can't disagree about Conor looking pretty useless off his back. It's just getting him there, that's the issue. Khabib shouldn't bank on eating a few shots willingly to get to him. If he has other ways I haven't seen them yet.
Have Conor defend his belt ten times and see how history will treat SBG! Conor is good but don’t let his mouth fool you into thinking he’s the best fighter in the world. A great shit talker but not an all time great fighter until he starts racking up some numbers on paper. Money in the bank does not buy a legacy like Aldo, Barrao, RDA, Silva...hell even Lawler, Diaz (both), Werdum etc.Good point. Granted, I'm not sure how kind history will be to them.
Extremely disrespectful personWhat am I missing/forgetting about Baszler?? Other than not being a very good fighter, what is the issue??
You're mistaking me with someone who thinks that Conor is one of the all time greats. But what he has done speaks for itself, his mouth might have put him in those fights, but he still had to win them.Have Conor defend his belt ten times and see how history will treat SBG! Conor is good but don’t let his mouth fool you into thinking he’s the best fighter in the world. A great shit talker but not an all time great fighter until he starts racking up some numbers on paper. Money in the bank does not buy a legacy like Aldo, Barrao, RDA, Silva...hell even Lawler, Diaz (both), Werdum etc.
Win or lose, these folks all fought for their legacy’s. Conor talked his way into his popularity with relatively fewer fights to speak of. I mean he’s good and all but is also beatable by a number of fighters in his division, including Khalabib.
I agree but I also believe he navigates his fights rather intelligently, avoiding the heavy grapplers as much as possible. Mendes did take him down at will and if he doesn’t take out Khabib before he shoots it will be a very long and difficult night for Conor. Then again, each round starts standing so there’s a few chances he has to close it out before it gets too bad.You're mistaking me with someone who thinks that Conor is one of the all time greats. But what he has done speaks for itself, his mouth might have put him in those fights, but he still had to win them.
Let's not get too carried away with Barao's legacy. He didn't exactly have a stellar title reign, his legacy is mostly about missing weight.
Wasn’t there a thread not long ago titled something like, “Fighting is not about the money, but passion” - Conor McG
Yea but what good is it if Cardio can’t follow?Conor's striking should be another level after preparing for Mayweather
Well if theres one thing both Kavanah and Zahabi have common in the recent years is that both their champs don’t like defending belts.Pendred was a good fighter, and Gunner Nelson isn't exactly a bum, either. You want to talk about over rated and then mention Zahabi as being upper echelon? You serious?.
Well if theres one thing both Kavanah and Zahabi have common in the recent years is that both their champs don’t like defending belts.
What makes u think that Conor’s left is stronger than Johnson’s?Michael johnsons straight left landed alot in the first round against khabib and stunned him. If conor lands his straight left once its over
What Champs does Zahabi have?Well if theres one thing both Kavanah and Zahabi have common in the recent years is that both their champs don’t like defending belts.
He had GSP for the longest time, defending belts, every single competition put in front of him unlike someone who always make the most convenient excuses for himself not to defend.What Champs does Zahabi have?