when the last straw is illegal it is not good
that said I prefer pride rules for all...but that needs to be agreed upon beforehand
that said I prefer pride rules for all...but that needs to be agreed upon beforehand
yes, looks like it effected him
I think somebody will freeze frame impact and repercussion on that forehead eventually.
there is no reason to throw it there so he fucked up impact or no IMO
Looks like it skimmed the top of his head. Didn't look like it was the shot that
put him out from other angles either. I was very surprised it never came into question
before the fight was called though.
This is what happens when you take away the ref GOAT Mario Yamasaki
and replace him with these clown shoe refs
Really bad reffing from Big Dan. Why do commissions still fuck around with refs like this? The ref union is way too strong and the fighters are suffering from bad decisions
Yes
What do you mean? I thought they were independent contractors hired for one-offs. The states don't have to hire him again, do they?
Whether it lands of not is irrelevant. He threw it to land and to the naked eye your cannot tell so therefore the referee should stop.
He shouldn't have had the opportunity to land it after those illegal elbows. Those are what really finished that fight
He shouldn't have had the opportunity to land it after those illegal elbows. Those are what really finished that fight
While I agree he was out probably by that point, it made him stumble (or forced him to stumble a different way), the rule is in place so that this doesn't happen. If someone gets knocked out and then stomped on for example is that OK?
Jeremy didn't help his case either explaining how calculated he was waiting for a hand to come up and stuff... only reason why anyone would make that argument is to admit that everyone is trying to game the system. How do you stop that? By some sort of appropriate consequence.
The way he stumbled, Stephens could have walked off with his hands raised.
I was pretty sure commisions assigned them
They were fighting under the new rules, I don't believe he was a grounded opponent one hand was definitely off the mat therefore the knee was legal
The knee missed & only circumstantially touched him on the way back after the intended strike missed.
I can see both sides of the elbows to the back of the head. The first one hit behind the ear as emmett kept shrimping to get out of the way. That one was legal... but then Emmett makes a big move that exposes the back of the head to the 2nd elbow which was a very clear illegal shot. The question is whether Jeremy is considered to have had enough time to react to Emmett putting his head in that position.
I really see it both ways. On one hand, it was a big move Emmett did... but on the other it was in the same direction as his previous move which got him tagged behind the ear. So perhaps Jeremy should've recognized it. At the same time... the 1st one hit just behind the ear, & the 2nd one likely would've hit there as well if Emmett didn't make that big move. I'm good either way.. but the knee is a non-issue.
I can see both sides of the elbows to the back of the head. The first one hit behind the ear as emmett kept shrimping to get out of the way. That one was legal... but then Emmett makes a big move that exposes the back of the head to the 2nd elbow which was a very clear illegal shot. The question is whether Jeremy is considered to have had enough time to react to Emmett putting his head in that position.
I really see it both ways. On one hand, it was a big move Emmett did... but on the other it was in the same direction as his previous move which got him tagged behind the ear. So perhaps Jeremy should've recognized it. At the same time... the 1st one hit just behind the ear, & the 2nd one likely would've hit there as well if Emmett didn't make that big move. I'm good either way.. but the knee is a non-issue.
Knee down trumps anything to do with the hands. Jeremy said something similar in his Fox post-fight interview... but he was mistaken. Under absolutely no circumstances is a knee allowed to someone's head... who has their knee on the canvas. If both their knees are up... but they got 2 hands down... you still cannot knee them. If they got one hand up... then you finally can knee them.
Interestingly Herb Dean in the Alvarez vs. Portier fight made the distinction between 2 hand down "that are supporting your weight"... & 2 hands down that "are not" supporting your weight. In other words, he felt like Portier just touching his fingers to the matt with both hands to avoid getting kneed wasn't enough & that it was legal to knee him. If he had his weight on his hands... then it would be illegal.
Regardless of all that, Portier was on a knee for the last shot to teh head that did the damage & so he should've been given more time to recover or Alvarez given a DQ. At least it got overturned to a NC though.
Well I have no fricken clue then
A grounded fighter is defined as: Any part of the body, other than a single hand and soles of the feet touching the fighting area floor. To be grounded, both hands palm/fist down, and/or any other body part must be touching the fighting area floor. A single knee, arm, makes the fighter grounded without having to have any other body part in touch with the fighting area floor. At this time, kicks or knees to the head will not be allowed.
A lot of people don't understand the grounded fighter rule. Here, let us help ...
A lot of people don't understand the grounded fighter rule. Here, let us help ...
I said no.
Stephens got away with some shady stuff though, no doubt. He should've gotten a warning for the elbows, but there's no excuse for the knee, even if it was grazing.
Very poor reffing.
Stephens got away with some shady stuff though, no doubt. He should've gotten a warning for the elbows, but there's no excuse for the knee, even if it was grazing.
Very poor reffing.
So being on his knees means grounded 100%
yes absolutely
No. That angle blocks the knee.
ya that is the fuzziest version of it yet LOL
I posted a gif that you can clearly see contact and the post fight with jeremy on fox desk has a clear image....contact was made by knee shin foot and shin again
I don't really care much about it but I find it funny people can't see the contact...bone to bone doesn't need much impact to transfer force
like I said I don't care if fight is DQ or anything...Not much of a fan of either dude
That's in the past... now you know
I know the knee landed on the way back down but the referee should still do his job and stop the fight!
Good knee