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Coast

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For instance a retired person maybe exempt from paying a wealth tax on one house. There are many ways that it could be balanced, but it would take a team of economists and mathematicians some time to rewrite the whole tax code, which means I couldn't give you any concrete answers, but to think it couldn't be done is nonsense.
And the whole idea behind this must surely be to generate at least the same amount of tax or more, than what was being generated before. How does that benefit your average Joe. If you take the UK's richest and assess their assests in the same way you would anyone else what you will find is that they will not be able to afford to pay tax based on their assests - I think they should contritube more, not necessarily be ruined though.
 

Zeph

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No it doesnt.
The basic principle is the same, but you're taking it to ad absurdum for one, when not considering the how home insurance works around not knowing exactly how much is in the home.
 

Leigh

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If we're talking about land in general in the UK about 70% of it is owned by 1% of the population, and much of that dates back to the Norman Conquest and William just handing it out to his mates, but I guess those families deserve it because their ancestor a thousand years ago was pretty good at putting his sword about. Hard work, boot straps and everything.
I'm not even sure what you're arguing. People shouldn't be able to give stuff to their children? You want everyone to work for their possessions? Seems pretty cruel on people who have difficulties.
Wealth should be taxed instead of income.
That's completely unworkable and IMHO it's morally abhorrent. Some high flyer young exec is earning tons but blows it on coke and hookers shouldn't pay any tax? An old retired couple who have scrimped and saved to pay off their mortgage and live on a small pension should pay a load of tax?

If I buy a load of properties but mortgage them to the hilt, I can make a ton of income and not have any wealth to tax under your proposal. Why are you targeting good, dependable people?
 

Coast

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The basic principle is the same, but you're taking it to ad absurdum for one, when not considering the how home insurance works around not knowing exactly how much is in the home.
You don't tell your insurers what you have in home, I've never had to do that. The only time you do is if something is particularly valuable. Even basic cover gives something like £20,000 worth of home content cover. A government wishing to collect taxes based on wealth can not do it by checking your insurance details.
 

Zeph

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You don't tell your insurers what you have in home, I've never had to do that. The only time you do is if something is particularly valuable. Even basic cover gives something like £20,000 worth of home content cover. A government wishing to collect taxes based on wealth can not do it by checking your insurance details.
So they make a general estimate you say?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Why are you targeting good, dependable people?
He correctly believes it's unfair that some people have a fuck ton, and some others have so little. That being said, he's attacking the problem in a very traditional sense "If you have more, they should take more."
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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So they make a general estimate you say?
They assume everyone has the same content value. It's actually funny that you're using insurance (the GOAT of rent seeking industries) as your example of a new model for economic equality.
 

Coast

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So they make a general estimate you say?
You have options what to choose, different packages usually starting from about 20,000. You can choose higher if you like. The only time you tell them what you have is when you need to claim, if you lied to get cheaper insurance your shit out of luck if the claim comes to more than 20k.
 

Zeph

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I'm not even sure what you're arguing. People shouldn't be able to give stuff to their children? You want everyone to work for their possessions? Seems pretty cruel on people who have difficulties.
That's completely unworkable and IMHO it's morally abhorrent. Some high flyer young exec is earning tons but blows it on coke and hookers shouldn't pay any tax? An old retired couple who have scrimped and saved to pay off their mortgage and live on a small pension should pay a load of tax?

If I buy a load of properties but mortgage them to the hilt, I can make a ton of income and not have any wealth to tax under your proposal. Why are you targeting good, dependable people?
Can you think of no way to account for such things? I've already said a solution to one of your problems, regarding a retired couples house, but I'm not going to play wack-a-mole here. A white paper would need to be written to achieve rewriting the tax code, but it could be done fairly.
 

Coast

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Can you think of no way to account for such things? I've already said a solution to one of your problems, regarding a retired couples house, but I'm not going to play wack-a-mole here. A white paper would need to be written to achieve rewriting the tax code, but it could be done fairly.
The thing is you can't do it fairly, even if you could make so most people are no worse off. The cost of administrating and enforcing such a tax system would probably absolve most if not all additional revenue generated by it.

The you have the fact that in order to enforce it effectively the government would have to snoop into the lives of every single person in the country. Imagine being in court on tax evasion because you forgot to tell the government you got a new laptop from the wife at Xmas.
 
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Which headline is better?

Prince Harry of Wales to wed American Meghan Markle.

Ex-Army Ginger to wed American Meghan Markle.

I say keep the monarchy intact.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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England of course!
Fuck.

No.

You guys are worse off than we are. The only place lower on my list is Australia. That's not to say there isn't great people in both of those places, but the over reaching of unelected officials is what I'm trying to get away from.