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You vote for your preferred regional Member of Parliament (MP) in the general election and the party with the most MPs wins. You

How are those regions decided?
I assume some attempt at equalizing population but then I also assume some political attempts to steer those gridlines towards a population favoring one party.
 
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Can an unlimited number of parties run for each seat?
Can you run without a party?
 

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Pretty sure the regions are based on population. Leigh @Leigh Zeph @Zeph or Coast @Coast please confirm.


@Splinty news flash - Trump lost the popular vote
I've just looked it up, as I didn't know myself. Firstly a constituency can not represent more than 5% of the population or be an area greater than 13,000 sq KM. Then theres a bunch of things to consider like local government boundaries.

But the nature of seats, as described above, mean that votes get clumped together in regional quantitative units. Its members by region and not direct democracy.

That's fairly analogous to precincts and referencing popular vote doesn't describe the process.
By direct democracy I assume you mean having 2 votes, one for the local MP and other for who you want to be in government?

When Brits vote, as a rule of thumb they do so more for the party they want in power, not who they want locally (see Robbies post). For example, even if I thought my MP was total shit, I still would probably vote him in the next election because ultimately I want the current government out.
 

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It's not THAT different to the US system. You vote for your preferred regional Member of Parliament (MP) in the general election and the party with the most MPs wins. You also have local elections for your Local Councillors. Our government consists of 2 houses; the House of Commons which is democratically elected in the general election and populated with MPs, and the House of Lords which is populated with Peers who are NOT democratically elected. The House of Commons does most of the legislation but it has to be signed off by the House of Lords and the Queen. That's usually ceremonial but recently the House of Lords did prevent a bill going through (for welfare cuts).

The US also has two chambers, the House of Representatives and the US Senate, except BOTH are elected. And they also have local elections. They have a president and we have a prime minister. In some countries, these are two separate roles but they are effectively the same role in the UK and US, which is party leader.
The House of Lords can only return a bill passed by the Commons twice, on the third time it passes automatically. Assuming it was in their manifesto upon which they ran.
 

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The House of Lords can only return a bill passed by the Commons twice, on the third time it passes automatically. Assuming it was in their manifesto upon which they ran.
Is royal assent not still required?
 

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Is royal assent not still required?
Technically, yes, but it's a rubber stamping process these days. If they ever tried to turn down a bill then Parliament could just pass a bill abolishing the monarchy(they should do this).
 
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Technically, yes, but it's a rubber stamping process these days. If they ever tried to turn down a bill then Parliament could just pass a bill abolishing the Monarchy(they should do this).
I'm not sure they could pass a bill like that even if they wanted to (and I really wish they would). Aside from the logistical issues which would be an absolute nightmare and honestly make it impractical. How would a bill abolishing the monarchy receive royal assent?
 

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Technically, yes, but it's a rubber stamping process these days. If they ever tried to turn down a bill then Parliament could just pass a bill abolishing the Monarchy(they should do this).
It would be interested to see what would happen if the government tried. The queen could demand a meeting with the PM, pull out the royal shotgun and blow his/her head clean off ones shoulders - and get away with it since shes immune to prosecution. Or she could order the army the execute the traitors, who are technically under the command of the Queen, not the government.
 

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It would be interested to see what would happen if the government tried. The queen could demand a meeting with the PM, pull out the royal shotgun and blow his/her head clean off ones shoulders - and get away with it since shes immune to prosecution. Or she could order the army the execute the traitors, who are technically under the command of the Queen, not the government.
Parliament pays their wages.
 

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Monarchy is the best form of government, and the revolution is the worst thing to ever happen.
 
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Technically, yes, but it's a rubber stamping process these days. If they ever tried to turn down a bill then Parliament could just pass a bill abolishing the Monarchy(they should do this).
Lizzie gonna send you to the dungeons or the Australian penal colony if she read this...
 

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Monarchy is the best form of government, and the revolution is the worst thing to ever happen.
Yeah, I love having the laws of my country made by people completely unaccountable to anyone.
 

Coast

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Parliament pays their wages.
Or is it the queen that pays Parliament?

HM Revenue and Customs is a non-ministerial department.

HMRC (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) was established by the Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Act (CRCA) 2005, which gives the legal powers and responsibilities of the department to Commissioners appointed by the Queen.

I'm not really a fan of the Royal family myself. The royals clearly are not like the royals from a couple of hundred years ago where they had absolute power, they still seem to have a fuck load of power though. It's never used though which makes people think they are there for ceremonial purposes.

The thing is, if the queen wanted to get involved in shit, at the very least its going to make things very awkward for the government. She still holds a lot of influence.

One other little thing, its probably meaningless but I'll put it out there. All MP's must take an oath before they are allowed to take their seat in Parliament.


I... swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

Members who object to swearing the oath are permitted to make a solemn affirmation under the terms of the Oaths Act 1978:

I... do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law.


The above oath is not optional, they can take it under protest, but they must still take it.

Also the following positions require an oath to the Queen.

And then of course you have the likes of the uniformed forces that must take the oath as well as people wishing to become UK citizens. Even scouts and girl guides take the oath.

I guess any government that seeks to remove the Monarch would be guilty of treason. No government will ever attempt to remove the Monarch unless they had overwhelming public support to do so, essentially it would mean a revolution. Since 76% of people in the UK like the Monarch, a revolution is highly unlikely for the foreseeable future and certainly not as long as Queen Elizabeth II rules.
 
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