Shamrock FC announces all belt winners will get Bellator contracts

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nuraknu

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Kind of cool for it to be a formal partnership and path like that. It might eventually lead to different matchmaking though, if Bellator likes or doesn't like someone. But it's nice to have more of a reason to keep up with a smaller promotion.
 

FrankieNYC

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I'm glad to see things like this. I think focusing on being the place for up & comers will do well for Bellator.
Over-spending for past prime guys isn't doing it
Good to see them making adjustments
 

nuraknu

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I'm glad to see things like this. I think focusing on being the place for up & comers will do well for Bellator.
Over-spending for past prime guys isn't doing it
Good to see them making adjustments
Yeah, you have to wonder if there's an amount set that hungry fighters agree to in their shamrock contracts. Would be interesting to get some details and see how it plays out.
 

RaginCajun

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Are they affiliated with Frank or Ken Shamrock?
 

TheEmperorRises

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I'm glad to see things like this. I think focusing on being the place for up & comers will do well for Bellator.
Over-spending for past prime guys isn't doing it
Good to see them making adjustments
They sign young talent all the time, it just doesn't get the same press or attention as a Cro Cop signing does.

The new blood in Bellator's Featherweight division | TMMAC - The MMA Community Forum

^ that's just in the FW division.

All this deal with ShamrockFC will do is add to an already growing list of young stars.
 

FrankieNYC

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They sign young talent all the time, it just doesn't get the same press or attention as a Cro Cop signing does.

The new blood in Bellator's Featherweight division | TMMAC - The MMA Community Forum

^ that's just in the FW division.

All this deal with ShamrockFC will do is add to an already growing list of young stars.
I know, but you missed the point
That needs to be what they do and not over-spend on past names.
Instead of it being part of the game plan, it might be better if it is the game plan, since the big names were the major reason they were in the red.
 

TheEmperorRises

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I know, but you missed the point
That needs to be what they do and not over-spend on past names.
Instead of it being part of the game plan, it might be better if it is the game plan, since the big names were the major reason they were in the red.
Without those name guys, no one's gonna pay attention.

If they headlined a card with Rafael Lovato Jr vs John Salter, I know two things for a fact. 1) It would be a great, relevant fight in the MW division, with the winner in line to face Mousasi for the title. 2) No one would watch, because only the hardcore fans know who those guys are.

They're not aiming to just be a springboard to the UFC. They're aiming to replace them.
 

FrankieNYC

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Without those name guys, no one's gonna pay attention.

If they headlined a card with Rafael Lovato Jr vs John Salter, I know two things for a fact. 1) It would be a great, relevant fight in the MW division, with the winner in line to face Mousasi for the title. 2) No one would watch, because only the hardcore fans know who those guys are.
Losing millions by over-spending for guys that don't move the needle enough to justify the pay & thus making the company be in the red is not a way to run a business.
They are not like UFC where they can make more money in a down year.
The company grossed only $20m approx (according to Nash) in 2017
That little gross means they are not spending wisely on big names
They don't need to make big money, they just need to stop losing money.
I rather Bellator survive & be around than have a few hundred k more watch & lose millions