Was Brock's WWE antics to over the top for MMA?

[Mad Dog]

• Brock vs Couture
• Chael vs Jones
• Fertittas & Dana gave Ronda a belt when they made the division.

Those were many years before the sale & nothing is different & it never will be in prize fighting
There are also many more belts so more chances for "undeserved" shots

Hardcores can dislike it & think MMA is supposed to be altruistic, but it never was & never will be.

Bellator & Rizin are not altruistic either.

I don't think MLB, NFL, etc. should have teams in the playoffs that did not win the division. What is the point of the regular season? But they do & there is no use complaining ... I just enjoy the games

But thinking things are different is just flat out incorrect.


View: https://youtu.be/ksGE4cqRzPM?t=18s

Everything that I said is accurate no matter how many red herrings you put up. Most of your drivel has nothing to do with my comment. If you can't see any difference between the Fertita era and the IMG era I don't know what else to tell you. No sense even discussing it with you any more.

Your examples are just silly. Brock was originally brought in because of his D1 wrestling accolades as well as his large fan base. Everyone knew that wrestling was the best base for MMA at that point.
Ronda was the Strikeforce champ so she was brought in and installed as the UFC champ of a NEW UFC division just like Aldo was. They could either have had people fight for these new belts or just install the proven champ from Strikeforce.

"Hardcores can dislike it & think MMA is supposed to be altruistic, but it never was & never will be."

I'm not sure why you said that. It has nothing to do with my comments. I've never felt that way.

I'm done wasting time with you.

 

[Mad Dog]

Double

 

[FrankieNYC]

I'm done wasting time with you.

If you cannot comprehend, I agree it is a waste.

Have a great day though

 

[FrankieNYC]

Double

More like a strike out

 

[FrankieNYC]

Funny timing but I just listened to Jeremy Botter do an interview on Meltzer's site.
He went off on those that think Brock coming back & getting a title shot is something that hasn't been done by the former regime & reminded listeners that Brock was 1&1 when he received his first shot & that win was off a journeyman.

He also said DC was the one that told him that the fight will be at MSG in november.

But DC publicly said January the earliest.

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

Everything that I said is accurate no matter how many red herrings you put up. Most of your drivel has nothing to do with my comment. If you can't see any difference between the Fertita era and the IMG era I don't know what else to tell you. No sense even discussing it with you any more.

Your examples are just silly. Brock was originally brought in because of his D1 wrestling accolades as well as his large fan base. Everyone knew that wrestling was the best base for MMA at that point.
Ronda was the Strikeforce champ so she was brought in and installed as the UFC champ of a NEW UFC division just like Aldo was. They could either have had people fight for these new belts or just install the proven champ from Strikeforce.

"Hardcores can dislike it & think MMA is supposed to be altruistic, but it never was & never will be."

I'm not sure why you said that. It has nothing to do with my comments. I've never felt that way.

I'm done wasting time with you.

Awesome post

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

Also, for those earlier on this thread who said "Stipe does not care" "Stipe is a big boy, he understands"

Stipe is pissed, read this



Speaking to ESPN on Monday, Miocic made his thoughts brutally clear on the matter.


“It was a sh*t show and it was disrespectful,” Miocic said. “I didn’t think that was what the UFC was all about.”


Miocic is known for being one of the more soft-spoken stars in MMA, so it wasn’t surprising that he chose not to get involved with Cormier-Lesnar shenanigans. However, that doesn’t mean he wanted to stay completely silent; in fact, he expected to have the opportunity to say his piece before Lesnar became involved.


“I thought they were going to interview me [after the fight] and I was going to ask for a rematch,” Miocic said. “When Brock came in, I said, ‘I’m out of here, I don’t need this circus.’ How can you give a guy a title shot who hasn’t fought in over two years, is suspended, and his last fight is a no-contest because he was taking PEDs?”


Despite Miocic’s objections (he told ESPN that he is only interested in an immediate rematch with Cormier), it looks like the gears are in motion for Lesnar, who will not be eligible to compete until January as he continues to pay the price for his past drug-test failures, to fight Cormier next. That’s a tough pill to swallow for Miocic given that he recently set the record for the most consecutive successful UFC title defenses (3) when he defeated Francis Ngannou at UFC 220.


He believes the UFC will do anything to pop a pay-per-view buy rate, even if it means giving a prime main event slot to a fighter who technically has not won a fight since July 2010 (Lesnar’s unanimous decision nod over Mark Hunt at UFC 200 on July 9, 2016 became a no-contest due to a pair of failed drug tests).


“I want a title shot. I deserve it,” Miocic said. “[Lesnar] hasn’t fought in how long? For him to get a title shot, as I get thrown to the side? It just seems like they are desperate for pay-per-views.


”I cleaned out the division. I defended it more than anyone, and you’re gonna tell me I don’t deserve a chance to get it back? Get out of here. Kiss my ass if you don’t think I deserve that.”


As for where he stands with White, the UFC’s mastermind who undoubtedly played a part in orchestrating the theatrics and stands to gain plenty from a Lesnar return, Miocic’s interaction with him in the aftermath has been almost non-existent.


“It was like a two-second conversation, he apologized for everything that happened in the cage,” Miocic said. “I just said, ‘Whatever.’ The apology didn’t mean anything. That’s what they want to happen.”