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Kav will be confirmed as Supreme Court Justice???

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Looks like his mom just signed the paperwork after her parents and the bank already made a deal to dismiss the case...

No, Brett Kavanaugh’s mother didn’t foreclose on his accuser’s parents' house

If anything that seems like it was a good move for her parents. and there were multiple judges. His mom was just the one that signed the final paperwork after the agreement was already done.

Shinkicker @Shinkicker a couple days ago all of the news is reporting that she was the judge that presided over the foreclosure and some implications that her parents lost the house or something. Thats what I thought you were referencing.
 

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Ford’s prior statements, though, go only so far in bolstering her claim. The therapist’s notes describe four boys being in the room in which the episode happened, rather than the two she now says were there. Ford blames the therapist for not accurately recording what she said. But just as the previous statements could be used to bolster her claim, this could be used to argue that she changed her story.


Analysis | The Brett Kavanaugh accusation isn’t a ‘he said, she said’ anymore

Freeloading Rusty @MC Gusto , apparently it was the therapist's error in note making.
 

Hauler

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Ford’s prior statements, though, go only so far in bolstering her claim. The therapist’s notes describe four boys being in the room in which the episode happened, rather than the two she now says were there. Ford blames the therapist for not accurately recording what she said. But just as the previous statements could be used to bolster her claim, this could be used to argue that she changed her story.


Analysis | The Brett Kavanaugh accusation isn’t a ‘he said, she said’ anymore

Freeloading Rusty @MC Gusto , apparently it was the therapist's error in note making.
2...4...

Potato, potahto
Tomato, tomahto

Whatevahs...
 

Hauler

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I think that the person who looks the worst in this is Feinstein. She's proving again how completely out of touch she is with the modern world, and how unimportant it is to act with integrity in the US Senate. Worst yet, the Democratic party is coming off as partisan hacks, and I think Kamala Harris (the future of the Dem power structure) is going to come out of this much worse for the wear.
Agreed. 100%.
 

Hauler

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Looks like someone supports rape...
Did you support Al Franken being removed from office? Of course you did...
Because what an adult does to 6 or 7 different women (allegedly) is exactly the same thing as what a 17 year old did at a high school party (allegedly) 36 years ago.

Zero difference.
 

KWingJitsu

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i see you found a source for your news that's even further disconnected than HuffPo or WorldNetDaily...
And?

I don't think they go far enough. Funny though how its only 'disconnected' if its reporting a story they hate.
I've had stalker-tards absolutely rage-fuming because I posted Raw Story links lol. So naturally, I double down.
If I can find more links that would trigger them more, I would post 'em. Any suggestions?

Because what an adult does to 6 or 7 different women (allegedly) is exactly the same thing as what a 17 year old did at a high school party (allegedly) 36 years ago.

Zero difference.
One is attempted rape, one is pretending to grab boobs in a picture.
Yeah ... big difference.
 

Hauler

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one is pretending to grab boobs in a picture.
Yeah ... big difference.
While I don't personally like the guy, I wasn't in favor of him being ostracized. But it was more than just that one picture that caused his demise. That pic just got the ball rolling with the #metoo's against him.

And he also denied everything other than the picture, which he admitted was in poor taste. And I believe she forgave him for.
 

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And?

I don't think they go far enough. Funny though how its only 'disconnected' if its reporting a story they hate.
I've had stalker-tards absolutely rage-fuming because I posted Raw Story links lol. So naturally, I double down.
If I can find more links that would trigger them more, I would post 'em. Any suggestions?
My mistake, I thought you were interested in reasoned discourse. I see now that you're only interested in provoking an emotional response from others. I'm going to assume that it's because IRL you're fairly powerless and unhappy.

One is attempted rape, one is pretending to grab boobs in a picture.
Yeah ... big difference.
Mrs. Ford said she felt like it was an attempted rape. But her accusation is one of sexual battery, not rape. Applying the same definition, Franken's actions are also 'attempted rape'.
 

KWingJitsu

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My mistake, I thought you were interested in reasoned discourse. I see now that you're only interested in provoking an emotional response from others. I'm going to assume that it's because IRL you're fairly powerless and unhappy.
Lol.

I can safely conclude you are one of the #triggered snowflakes. This makes me happy. And powerful.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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As for the 6 year thing, I don't know.
Why not 30 years before that?
I cant answer that.

But I am confident claiming it is not uncommon for a victim to wait years or even decades before speaking out.

..Just ask Bill Cosby or the countless others who have faced the consequences of their actions decades later.
 

Disciplined Galt

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I cant answer that.

But I am confident claiming it is not uncommon for a victim to wait years or even decades before speaking out.

..Just ask Bill Cosby or the countless others who have faced the consequences of their actions decades later.
Which is why any true Scotsman disregards them.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I did read it. That is why I had questions. The notes from her therapist stated "students", (plural) and "highly respected members" (plural) Which I agree doesn't match the more specific story coming out now.
According to the accusations, two male students pulled her into the bedroom. Four male students were at the party.

So was the other boy involved in attacking her or not? Or Did the therapist just get her notes wrong?
She claims the other boy and Kavanaugh forced her into the bedroom. Kavanaugh got forced himself on her which got broken up when the other student jumped onto the bed in a drunken attempt at a tackle.


I thought psychiatrists certainly often refer people to marriage counseling. I wasn't aware they did the counseling themselves. Maybe they do. Or maybe someone mistakenly called the therapist a psychiatrist. I was genuinely curious. Lol
Those with money are likely to pay for top notch services. Therapists will also take on counseling cases. I may have mixed up the terms though in a response, either way, the point is irrelevant.

I think her motive should be the most important question right now.

What do you think her motive is if it isn't to prevent this appointment?
I agree the motive should be scrutinized.

I think her motive could still be to prevent his appointment without it being some martyr style political play.


I'm asking this in a most respectful manner....are you high? Lol
You dont think its possible some victims are intimidated by the power possessed by their attacker or the amount of unwanted attention it would cause?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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They're basically the same as drug dogs.
Wait, drug dogs?

This is going over my head. Care to explain?


She didn't "seek out the spotlight", but she did grab the first opportunity to jump in to it. A reporter from Buzzfeed shows up and asks questions, do you step outside and say "Got me! Guess there's no hiding now" or do you deny and disappear? assuming you want anonymity.
How do you deny it if a reporter from Buzzfeed has your information?

At that point, it was out of her hands. Its either attempt to control her 'version' of the story or let the media narrate it.

I dont understand how you think she could disappear when even the gossip media has your name.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Which is why any true Scotsman disregards them.
Wow, a surprisingly sober and intelligent post from Galt.

Correct on calling out the flaw in my logic, in reverse. I stand corrected.

Unlike Ted Williams' head @Ted Williams' head when he gets called out on a logical fallacy, I can admit when I have fallen into a logic trap.
 
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Freeloading Rusty

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Does anyone actually believe the Republican party didnt know about this accusation before shit hit the fan last week?

It forces one to question how they were able to come up with a list of 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school and track them down to sign a letter... all within days of the accusations?
 
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Freeloading Rusty

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She's claiming it was GOING to happen if their mutual friend didn't playfully tackle the two of them. It's pretty hard to prove intent - let alone intent from something that happened so long ago.
If you believe her story up until that point, Kavanaugh is still guilty of sexual assault and possibly forcible confinement (assuming you have similar charges in USA as I am basing my criminal code knowledge off the Canadian system).

Does a forcible confinement and sexual assault incident preclude one from the position he has been appointed for?