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Kav will be confirmed as Supreme Court Justice???

  • Yes, he's voted into the Supreme Court

  • No, the vote fails or his nomination is withdrawn


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Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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Nope. MIA since the day before Ford gave her story under oath.

I hope all is well with him though IRL. Cuz I know he wouldnt quit the forum over losing a bet.
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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I thought that was the bet. Did you guys take the loser quits option off the table?
I gave him the choice between the two options of my original wager. $50 or loser leaves the forum. Truck stated he wanted the wager to be the cash option when he confirmed the bet.
 

megatherium

el rey del mambo
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Jan 15, 2015
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So he was confirmed after all eh. Some elderly folks I know followed this on tv. I warned them not to, to no avail of course.

I'll be doggoned.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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kneeblock

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Apr 18, 2015
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Interesting.

I didn't know he was named supreme ruler and everything he said was immediately made into law.

Good to know.
No offense, but you're either being obtuse or can't admit that he was always a bad pick
Interesting.

I didn't know he was named supreme ruler and everything he said was immediately made into law.

Good to know.
Did you mean to quote my post? I'm not sure how what you typed relates in any way to what I posted.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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No offense, but you're either being obtuse or can't admit that he was always a bad pick


Did you mean to quote my post? I'm not sure how what you typed relates in any way to what I posted.
My point was that he is 1 of 9. It doesn't much matter what one individual says. There is a built-in checks and balances that keeps one individual's opinion basically meaningless if it isn't also shared by the majority.

Also, I've given up taking links on this thread as credible references. The vast majority of them are discovered to be complete horseshit in 2 or 3 sentences. Not saying the link isn't factual, just that I haven't looked into it.

I've already stated I would have moved on from Kavanaugh once he was found to be dishonest about his partying days. But he's in now, and even if he was a horrible pick his vote still only counts for 11%.
 
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kneeblock

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My point was that he is 1 of 9. It doesn't much matter what one individual says. There is a built in checks and balances that keeps one individual's opinion basically meaningless if it isn't also shared by the majority.

Also, I've given up taking links on this thread as credible references. The vast majority of them are discovered to be complete horseshit in 2 or 3 sentences. Not saying the link isn't factual, just that I haven't looked into it.

I've already stated I would have moved on from Kavanaugh once he was found to be dishonest about his partying days. But he's in now, and even if he was a horrible pick his vote still only counts for 11%.
I hear what you're saying, but the issue here isn't his dishonesty or any aspect of his personality. It's his approach to jurisprudence and the expansion of state authority, which I mentioned also a couple pages ago in an article where he misrepresented his role in deliberations over President Bush's use of torture.

He's 1 of 9, but it does matter a great deal what one justice says. The final ruling is where the public usually interacts with decisions, but in the context of subsequent litigation and even legislation that gets written, the perspectives and opinions of individual justices writing for the majority or dissenting opinion count for quite a bit in our judicial system. Also, everything they say that litigators get access to helps shape legal arguments and judges decisions throughout the courts. Kavanaugh saying the state should have indefinite powers of detention can now be cited as a guiding principle as the executive branch tests the limits of what is acceptable. The justices don't always vote as a political bloc, but they do predictably enough. So if 5 find in favor of a particular point of view, then the individual sentiments of the justices become especially relevant as their views represent the perspective of the majority ruling. Kav is probably more socially liberal than some of his detractors have implied, but on issues of the state use of power, his record isn't great and it seems to be continuing.
 

megatherium

el rey del mambo
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I hear what you're saying, but the issue here isn't his dishonesty or any aspect of his personality. It's his approach to jurisprudence and the expansion of state authority, which I mentioned also a couple pages ago in an article where he misrepresented his role in deliberations over President Bush's use of torture.

He's 1 of 9, but it does matter a great deal what one justice says. The final ruling is where the public usually interacts with decisions, but in the context of subsequent litigation and even legislation that gets written, the perspectives and opinions of individual justices writing for the majority or dissenting opinion count for quite a bit in our judicial system. Also, everything they say that litigators get access to helps shape legal arguments and judges decisions throughout the courts. Kavanaugh saying the state should have indefinite powers of detention can now be cited as a guiding principle as the executive branch tests the limits of what is acceptable. The justices don't always vote as a political bloc, but they do predictably enough. So if 5 find in favor of a particular point of view, then the individual sentiments of the justices become especially relevant as their views represent the perspective of the majority ruling. Kav is probably more socially liberal than some of his detractors have implied, but on issues of the state use of power, his record isn't great and it seems to be continuing.
I'm afraid his real partying days are just getting started. I understand some real debauchery takes place in that chamber.