Newtown - "
Four years before Adam Lanza massacred more than two dozen people in Newtown, Conn., in 2012, police officials were warned of his homicidal plans, according to documents released by the F.B.I. this week.
In one entry dated Dec. 26, 2012, 12 days after the shooting, a man said he had been privy to a conversation in which Mr. Lanza said he had an assault weapon and was planning to kill children at Sandy Hook Elementary School and his mother.
The man, whose name was redacted, was so troubled by this information that he reported it to the Newtown Police Department in 2008, according to the document, which was among about
1,500 pages released by the agency on Tuesday. But he said the police told him that “Lanza’s mother owned the guns and that there was nothing N.P.D. could do about it.”"
Dayton - "
"There was a kill list and a rape list, and my name was on the rape list," the female classmate told the AP.
On the day the "hit list" came out in 2012, roughly a third of the students at Bellbrook High School
skipped school out of fear of being targeted, according to the Dayton Daily News.
A 24-year-old woman told NBC News she was friends with Betts in middle school until he made a violent, sexual threat against her.
The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, claimed that he spoke of his desire to harm girls and said he was afraid of his own thoughts. She added that he showed her poems he had written about killing people and that she urged him to get counseling.
"He had really dark fantasies, a lot of them mixed death with sex," she said.
Eventually, the woman cut off contact with Betts. "He threatened me, so I stopped being friends with him," she said, adding that when she was 14, she alerted her parents to the threat and they went to the police to give a statement about him.
She said she knew of the gunman's disturbing lists.
"When I heard he was the shooter, I wasn't surprised at all," she said. "These are all the things that everyone tried to warn the police and the school about 10 years ago. Everyone knew who he was.""
Sutherland Springs "
The Air Force failed six times to report information that could have prevented the ex-airman who killed more than two dozen people in a Texas church from purchasing a gun, according to a government report released Friday.
The Department of Defense inspector general's report details Devin Patrick Kelley's decade-long history of violence, interest in guns and menacing of women."
Parkland
"One of those employees took the first tip about Cruz less than five months before the Parkland shooting.
“I am going to be a professional school shooter,” someone with the username “nikolas cruz” had commented on a YouTube video.
The information was correctly flagged and forwarded from the call center to the FBI’s field office in Jackson, Miss. An FBI agent and a local law enforcement officer, assigned to a counterterrorism task force, interviewed the tipster and took a copy of a screen shot the man had taken of Cruz’s comment.
The investigators checked FBI databases and did online searches but decided that the true identity of the person who posted the comment could not be determined. They closed their investigation 16 days later, on Oct. 11. They did not ask Google, which owns YouTube, to voluntarily turn over information that could have been used to identify Cruz. And they did not ask federal prosecutors to consider subpoenaing the information.
Less than three months later, on Jan. 5, a longtime friend of the Cruz family became so concerned about Cruz’s posts on Instagram that she phoned the FBI call center.
For more than 13 minutes, the woman provided detailed information about Cruz’s online postings, in which he said he planned to harm himself and others. She said he had made comments about the Islamic State terrorist group; had bought multiple guns; had mutilated small animals; had the mental capacity of a 12- to 14-year-old; and was going to explode. She had contacted local police, she said.
The woman gave the call-taker the name, address and phone number of the Parkland family, James and Kimberly Snead, who let Cruz move in with them in late November or early December after his mom had died. The tipster also spelled out his Instagram usernames.
“I just want someone to know about this so they can look into it. … I just know I have a clear conscience if he takes off and, and just starts shooting places up,” the woman said on the call.
She also said she was concerned about his “getting into a school and just shooting the place up.”
Under questioning at the congressional hearings shortly after the Parkland shootings, Bowdich, the deputy FBI director, acknowledged that investigators still don’t know precisely what went wrong with the handling of the second tip.
After hanging up, the call-taker ran Cruz’s name through several FBI databases and found he had no criminal record.
She also found the prior tip, submitted by the Mississippi man a couple of months earlier, which investigators had closed out.
When questioned after the Parkland shootings, the call-taker told investigators that she had presented the relevant information to her supervisor. Based on what she told him, the agent told her to close the file as having “no lead value.” The tip was never forwarded to the FBI field office in Miramar for investigation
Over and over and over we see everyone around knew the guy was nuts.
Adam Lanza is having hallucination, talking about killing people, NOT getting mental help, regularly obsessed with mass shootings...and the cops response is a lazy "well you know the guns in the house don't belong to him!". They don't even talk to the mother. They don't do anything. If Lanza was a nonviolent felon, the cops would notify the mother that she can be arrested for making the guns available to him in the house. Yet, there's no system there.
All could have been stopped with gun laws that have a working database and empower police to remove guns first then build their case. We do this with psych patients themselves but not their guns.
If you make public or online statements about killing yourself or others, you lose your guns. Then it should be your job to petition them back.
I don't owe anyone with this type of behavior access to a gun. I own lots of guns. I don't post online about shooting the place up, about murdering people, etc.
Take the guns, spend the next 72 hours presenting the evidence to a judge to see get a longer term order. Gun loser can appeal.
@Hauler, I'm not an expert on guns but I know the basics. Also this wikipage shows that if I'm correct, no "assault rifles" were used in any mass shooting here in the United States...
