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Never_Rolled

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The really sad thing about this is how that girl asking a stupid gender question believes she needs to be taken seriously. I have a few under 25 year old girls in my circle and this crap is on the top of their list. None were like that before going to college.
 

Hauler

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She was obviously baiting him. I actually like his response of "Don't mess with me, kid"
That's my point. Joe doesn't apologize and he isn't screwing around with being trolled.
He's a gaffe machine, but I'll take that over the right doubling down on outrage snowflake culture for their own uses. WAAAHHHHhhhh

He's the only dem not for legalizing illegal immigration, medicare for all, etc.

I like Yang for a lot of reasons, but he's an autist like Elon Musk. Absolute genius in some ways and totally out of touch with being a normal human in others. Gimme a Joe and Tulsi run with a Yang cabinet role related to finance.
 

Hauler

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That's my point. Joe doesn't apologize and he isn't screwing around with being trolled.
He's a gaffe machine, but I'll take that over the right doubling down on outrage snowflake culture for their own uses. WAAAHHHHhhhh

He's the only dem not for legalizing illegal immigration, medicare for all, etc.

I like Yang for a lot of reasons, but he's an autist like Elon Musk. Absolute genius in some ways and totally out of touch with being a normal human in others. Gimme a Joe and Tulsi run with a Yang cabinet role related to finance.
You giving up on the Trumpster having a shot at winning?
 

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You giving up on the Trumpster having a shot at winning?
Trump wins if the economy is strong and the dems pick any of the candidates calling for de facto open borders and medicare for all.

I got the economy I wanted out of Trump. I got the focus on illegal immigration. I got the start of some decoupling of our economy with China. For various reasons I support all of those, though for rather different reasons than I think many others do...mostly economic, some moral.

I also got a blank slate that has been perverted by other interests and as such created a day to day executive order spaz session instead of the lame duck I had anticipated. I'm also not sure the GOP is burning to the ground as the rate I had hoped. lol.

If we're going to decouple China/USA we should have increased our position inside of TPP, routing china economically and easing our supply lines into the rest of more competitively priced and more strategically friendly SEA. And I didn't love TPP. It was built on increasing GDP through more free trade, outsourcing everything, skewing that GDP to the top, and then having to use local social/economic policies to pull that generated wealth down to the rest. We aren't good at that right now so it's not like I'm a big TPP supporter. But Tariffs will/are redirecting supply lines right now and that's geopolitically good to diversify. However, we failed to smooth that exit and new entry. We instead of created too much uncertainty which is going to hit us economically.
I'm not convinced Biden will hurt the economy. He'd be more consistent on the things we are spazing about right now. And while he isn't the immigration focus that I want totally, his Obama tenure suggests he'll continue strong enforcement but also be compassionate about it. The rest are so far left here it's ridiculous. And it has terrible economic and moral outcomes.
 

Never_Rolled

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Trump wins if the economy is strong and the dems pick any of the candidates calling for de facto open borders and medicare for all.

I got the economy I wanted out of Trump. I got the focus on illegal immigration. I got the start of some decoupling of our economy with China. For various reasons I support all of those, though for rather different reasons than I think many others do...mostly economic, some moral.

I also got a blank slate that has been perverted by other interests and as such created a day to day executive order spaz session instead of the lame duck I had anticipated. I'm also not sure the GOP is burning to the ground as the rate I had hoped. lol.

If we're going to decouple China/USA we should have increased our position inside of TPP, routing china economically and easing our supply lines into the rest of more competitively priced and more strategically friendly SEA. And I didn't love TPP. It was built on increasing GDP through more free trade, outsourcing everything, skewing that GDP to the top, and then having to use local social/economic policies to pull that generated wealth down to the rest. We aren't good at that right now so it's not like I'm a big TPP supporter. But Tariffs will/are redirecting supply lines right now and that's geopolitically good to diversify. However, we failed to smooth that exit and new entry. We instead of created too much uncertainty which is going to hit us economically.
I'm not convinced Biden will hurt the economy. He'd be more consistent on the things we are spazing about right now. And while he isn't the immigration focus that I want totally, his Obama tenure suggests he'll continue strong enforcement but also be compassionate about it. The rest are so far left here it's ridiculous. And it has terrible economic and moral outcomes.
You like R policy but don’t like R’s is what it comes down to. I don’t believe Trump was a real R when elected or I should say before his campaign. I believe the left pushed him so far he’s now a conservative. #maga
 

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You like R policy but don’t like R’s is what it comes down to. I don’t believe Trump was a real R when elected or I should say before his campaign. I believe the left pushed him so far he’s now a conservative. #maga
I want the modern GOP to burn to the ground.
Also the R's screwed up so bad with NO healthcare answer after 8 years of whining about healthcare as their core issue.
No infrastructure bill to date.
Gun laws by R's are out of touch and allow a vacuum for the left to go too hard.
That's just the beginning...

Oh and while the R tax bill benefited me and I've made jokes about loving it, it's absolutely shit deal from a good economics standpoint... that was unpopular and took political capital away from the other things that we are now not solving...LIKE HEALTHCARE.
 

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I want the modern GOP to burn to the ground.
Also the R's screwed up so bad with NO healthcare answer after 8 years of whining about healthcare as their core issue.
No infrastructure bill to date.
Gun laws by R's are out of touch and allow a vacuum for the left to go too hard.
That's just the beginning...

Oh and while the R tax bill benefited me and I've made jokes about loving it, it's absolutely shit deal from a good economics standpoint... that was unpopular and took political capital away from the other things that we are now not solving...LIKE HEALTHCARE.
Like the dems are going to solve any of that. lol They are all about identity politics.

If you are a middle aged white guy with means and still a dem I can't help you. You don't matter to them except a donation and keep your mouth shut. There are plenty of conservatives who actually want to fix healthcare and there are great ideas out there. I agree it isn't with one voice. Most people were happy with their healthcare before Obama. He uprooted a not perfect system to help a small % and made it horrible for everyone.
 

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I can only imagine how old Creepy Joe is gonna look if he gets the nomination. Gaffes on the daily and they're gonna have to hide him the same way they did with Hillary after she was fainting and could barely walk by herself while claiming she had the "flu"...
 

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I can only imagine how old Creepy Joe is gonna look if he gets the nomination. Gaffes on the daily and they're gonna have to hide him the same way they did with Hillary after she was fainting and could barely walk by herself while claiming she had the "flu"...

 

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I think we both see eye to eye on Joey. I have no doubt he would've beat Trump in 2016 easy. He's looking pretty old now though. I guess at that age every year makes a huge difference. I'm sure he's the Dem Trump fears the most. If he gets the nomination, MI and PA are gone for sure and WI will be the toss-up I believe...
 

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I feel bad for the cop and his family. Fuck Michael Brown, his family and supporters.
I'll never forget watching these stupid bitches do this on CNN. LoL @ "Conservative" Margaret Hoover (far left) who's married to the gay cuck John Avlon at CNN taking part in this. Atleast she redeemed herself a bit by making a fool out of AOC on her PBS show...

 

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There may be more but I can't remember seeing a more inauthentic person. Booker is a distant second. Not that he's better it's just Beto is on another level.
Gillibrand too. She changed her stance on every position she stood for as a upstate New York Congresswoman once she was given Hillary's Senate seat. It's a scream when she talks about winning in a red district while failing to mention she's a complete fraud now who magically changed all her beliefs overnight...
 

Never_Rolled

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Gillibrand too. She changed her stance on every position she stood for as a upstate New York Congresswoman once she was given Hillary's Senate seat. It's a scream when she talks about winning in a red district while failing to mention she's a complete fraud now who magically changed all her beliefs overnight...
I get they are all full of shit and will say anything to get votes. Those two though, they're actors. You can tell it isn't real it's acting.
 

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I get they are all full of shit and will say anything to get votes. Those two though, they're actors. You can tell it isn't real it's acting.
Yee and Booker saying his "testosterone" makes him want to punch Trump in the face was the biggest whopper ever. That nerd only has estrogen pumping through his body which is why he has to fake having Rosario Dawson as his girlfriend...