View: https://youtu.be/3w64KOt4qhc
Zublick put out something quality.
This is what we've been talking about.
this shit was blowing up by the time thanksgiving rolled around. the rich Chinese were already fleeing china by the beginning of dec.. just think.. 11 million Chinese escaping a disaster zone that wasn't even announced as such for another 30 to 45 days later.. where would they go? any where and every where.. the Chinese locked in are the elderly and poor Chinese.. meanwhile the rich ones escape to cruise ships, vacation hot spots like italy, thailand, japan, any place with a hotel and amusement park.. these sick fucks were going there.. and while these infected people were scrambling to get out of china, most countries took a reactionary stance.. waiting to see who gets infected and how many.. the proper stance should have been preventive.. lock down borders and block everyone and everyone from travel.. 17 million Italians are now under lock down.. only a few weeks due to our own govt incompetence that most of united states is also under lock down
They have to use the Khabib - ferguson injury joke for that dayapril fools is 25 days away
It's...maybe you're a checkers guy.Talk about knee jerk reactions.
Shut the world down because of a virus that isn't going to affect 99% of the worlds population even in a worst case scenario.
It's...maybe you're a checkers guy.
this place always has the laughs even in the most serious of threadsFrom those last two posts, I can't tell if this is a coronavirus thread or the "If you need a laugh" thread.
There's a couple leads being buried here. What's mind boggling to me is how China is being completely let off the hook by the folk whom are a little more conspiracy minded. China's behavior has been absolutely disgusting.I think the more eye opening aspect of this that no one talks about is the lack of faith we have in our media and in our government. There doesn't seem to be many taking it at face value like we did when I grew up.
FactsFirst Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report
Earliest case detected on 17 November, weeks before authorities acknowledged new virus, says Chinese media
A medical worker disinfects a ward in Wuhan union hospital, China. Cases emerged in November, Chinese government data reportedly suggests.
The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.
The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.
The Chinese government was widely criticised over attempts to cover up the outbreak in the early weeks, including crackdowns on doctors who tried to warn colleagues about a new Sars-like virus which was emerging in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province
The data obtained by the Post, which the Guardian has not been able to verify, said a 55-year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to contract Covid-19. For about one month after that date there were one to five new cases reported each day, the report said, and by 20 December there were 60 confirmed cases.
The virus, which is now a pandemic, has infected at least 128,343 people across the world and killed 4,702. Of those who have contracted the virus since it began, 68,324 people have recovered.
Almost 81,000 of the cases occurred in China, mostly in the province of Hubei.
Official statements by the Chinese government to the World Health Organisation reported that the first confirmed case had been diagnosed on 8 December. Doctors who tried to raise the alarm with colleagues about a new disease in late December were reprimanded. Authorities did not publicly concede there was human-to-human transmission until 21 January.
Jonathan Mayer, professor emeritus at the University of Washington’s department of epidemiology, said it was “entirely conceivable” there were cases as early as mid-November.
He said there were three possibilities: that cases weren’t detected at the time, that they were detected but not recognised as a new disease, or they were detected and recognised but reporting was suppressed.
“I have no way of knowing which of these possibilities in fact happened,” Mayer told the Guardian.
“We know that there are reports of early suppression of reports of cases, and the ‘whistleblowers’ dealt with rather severely. But in fairness, the signs and symptoms of Covid-19 are non-specific and even now, without confirmatory testing, it is easy to mistake this for another disease.”
Mayer said it was highly improbably that patient zero would ever be identified.
The origins of the virus have become part of US-China diplomatic conflict, fuelled by US officials calling the disease “Chinese coronavirus” or “Wuhan virus”.
It’s widely accepted, including by the head of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention that the virus originated in Hubei. However in recent weeks Chinese officials have started suggesting or outright claiming that the virus did not originate in China, but perhaps in the US, a conspiracy theory that is gaining traction.
On Thursday, Zhao Lijian, a foreign ministry spokesman, suggested without evidence that the US army may have brought it into China.
“Epidemics always have become political,” said Mayer. “Governments seem opposed to admitting that things were handled imperfectly, yet it is only by identifying the imperfections and shortcomings that things can be addressed to do a better job next time. With emerging infections, there will always be a next time.”
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First Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report
Earliest case detected on 17 November, weeks before authorities acknowledged new virus, says Chinese media
Nobody is off the hook IMOThere's a couple leads being buried here. What's mind boggling to me is how China is being completely let off the hook by the folk whom are a little more conspiracy minded. China's behavior has been absolutely disgusting.
I really bet it was in USA in late december...global travel is a motherfucker
If you think Bill Gates made this virus, you're most definitely letting the responsible parties off the hook.Nobody is off the hook IMO
Heads must roll
I'm not sold on anything 100%, I only consider all possibilities. It could have been an intentional or unintentional leak IMO. That has to be an option when a Bioweapons Lab is in the start of a Pandemic Virus.If you think Bill Gates made this disease, you're most definitely letting the responsible parties off the hook.
Do you have a source that will support this claim?Gates funded the Wuhan lab.
A couple things that we've seen in plain sight. 1) Pangolins carry 99% of the makeup of this version of the coronavirus. Pangolins are extremely endangered largely due to Chinese wet markets and the fact that China gives 0 fucks about wildlife or the envrionment. 2) They lied about the seriousness of this outbreak several times in an attempt to save face on the public stage.Shoot out your theory or evidence of where exactly it started if you want.
I could do this all night, that info is out there and we could go back and forth.Do you have a source that will support this claim?
A couple things that we've seen in plain sight. 1) Pangolins carry 99% of the makeup of this version of the coronavirus. Pangolins are extremely endangered largely due to Chinese wet markets and the fact that China gives 0 fucks about wildlife or the envrionment. 2) They lied about the seriousness of this outbreak several times in an attempt to save face on the public stage.
The biggest hole in the "They cooked this up in a lab theory" is that if they had, there'd be a vaccine.
I looked at the Gates claim, I found 0 info on it, which is why I asked for a source.I could do this all night, that info is out there and we could go back and forth.
I heard him say that live and was likeTrump says "we know where it started"
Word bruh. Did not know that.hour later Gates steps down from Microsoft Board.
oh, cool. I think you might wanna give duck duck go a try if you don't want your search filtered...Google won't show you any results on the topic, hmnnnnI looked at the Gates claim, I found 0 info on it, which is why I asked for a source.
Duckduckgo, doesn't offer much more.I think you might wanna give duck duck go a try if you don't want your search filtered.
Was unable to find any of that. What there's a lot of is him writing cheques to people who research vaccines, then people drawing long, squiggly lines to try to connect the dots. I'd accept 2 degrees of separation to entertain the idea, 1 would be even better, but saying "a guy worked in Wuhan who also owned an Xbox" isn't exactly compelling.Him and esptiens buddy scientist guy got busted federally in January for collaborating in china or something...Gates has a gale(from breaking bad) scientist set up the lab in Wuhan...He gives huge donation to companies that are owned by the larger company that funded Wuhan lab directly. Etc.. Etc...stuff like that