That's naive and doesn't account for the reasons why they might be inclined to downplay. It may not even be conscious for some but biases are real.The guy is right, but it has nothing to do with political affiliation. Stupid people on both sides, having downplayed this. Any comment including political affiliation is nothing but politicizing this which is as bad. It's divisive, which is not what we need. The CDC and FDA have failed us, and I don't regard them red or blue, but government.
Initially, but after that response was rapid and effective. Largely accepted fact at this point, disputed by no one, except yourself, of course.Except they've consistently lied about their numbers since day one.
Patient 31? What a dick.That's not accounting for the fact people are most infectious when not showing symptoms early and many don't show symptoms or are very small. Leads them to become super spreaders. 80% of South Korea's cases can be traced back to one patient, patient 31.
You can't teach English 8 via Skype?Supposed to start working 10 mins ago. Still waiting around for the meeting to start.
They were actually caught lying several time. I'm also not disputing your claim, I'm just pointing out that you might not want to bet the house on what China tells us. After they were caught lying about SARS they said "We've learned out lesson and won't do that again."Initially, but after that response was rapid and effective. Largely accepted fact at this point, disputed by no one, except yourself, of course.
What do you think China has done again?They were actually caught lying several time. I'm also not disputing your claim, I'm just pointing out that you might not want to bet the house on what China tells us. After they were caught lying about SARS they said "We've learned out lesson and won't do that again."
China, they lied about SARS which allowed it to spread throughout the world. Do you not remember that?What do you think China has done again?
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Not sure one led to the other, but ok.China, they lied about SARS which allowed it to spread throughout the world. Do you not remember that?
We can't just say government failed and be right? I don't believe that.That's naive and doesn't account for the reasons why they might be inclined to downplay. It may not even be conscious for some but biases are real.
They didn't, nor did I say they did. My point was in 2003 they had a situation (SARS) lied about it, and it then became the rest of the world's problem. When exposed they said "Sorry, we fucked up. Learned out lesson though." Fast forward 16 years and "Shit we've got a super virus. Let's just pretend it's not big deal again."Not sure one led to the other, but ok.
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Why did it fail? Why did it have such blindspots? Otherwise it helps no one to improve in the future. Honest assessment is a must. Calling it a failure without looking at the reasons is just setting you up for failure.We can't just say government failed and be right? I don't believe that.
Not excusing China's initial response it was poor and you're right to criticise it. Separate that from subsequent action taken which is exemplary and not just down to government action, but populations willingness to buy into voluntary social distancing and testing.They didn't, nor did I say they did. My point was in 2003 they had a situation (SARS) lied about it, and it then became the rest of the world's problem. When exposed they said "Sorry, we fucked up. Learned out lesson though." Fast forward 16 years and "Shit we've got a super virus. Let's just pretend it's not big deal again."
Agreed but will depend on testing and buy in from population. Must be already spreading there right?Down here where it's hot quickly I've been counting on that buffer. I finally got around looking up New York City which has an average high in the low 70s until June. Lots of these hard hit northern coastal areas will keep this around the longest.
We should get it a week later here and then end it sooner for those reasons.
Sheriff will just shoot the covid in the back. Stop it right in it's tracks.So you're trying to tell me that a Dr. knows better than a Sheriff about health care? Nonsense.