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Jesus X

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the cascading effect of your organs shutting down after the tire out makes my butt hole pucker too that sounds lethal AF. thanks again china.
 

Splinty

Shake 'em off
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tire out sounds like a brutal way to die
From reading everything his description on the YouTube video of relating this closer to altitude sickness is kind of accurate.
In acute altitude sickness your lungs are working fine. The oxygen level changes cause your blood vessels to increase their resistance at the lungs.
This all leads to lungs that are moving air really well but the air is hitting blood vessels that are tight and not flowing well.

This is what they are saying is happening with covid 19 for most of these patients earlier in the course. This is directly opposite of ARDS in which the lungs get inflammatory process that is well known to commence in several distinct phases. In that case the lungs are stiffer, inflamed, and not moving air across to blood vessels that are presumably working perfectly fine ready to take the air if the lungs would just start working.

Since I am not an intensivist, this could be a real challenge and differentiating which patients are typical covid19 blood vessel shunting with good lungs and which ones have gone into ARDS which is absolutely a possibility for any systemic wide infection like this regardless of usual disease pattern.
 

MartyLife

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[Hydroxychloroquine has] been out for a long time, it's a malaria drug and also a drug for lupus …There's a study out that people with lupus aren't catching this horrible virus," said Trump. "Now maybe that's correct, maybe it's false. You're going to have to check it out."





This kind of wimpiness makes me rage. Man up with a position.
Well...how else could he be right no matter the outcome?
Smart man. Hedging his bets. :)


Namaste
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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From reading everything his description on the YouTube video of relating this closer to altitude sickness is kind of accurate.
In acute altitude sickness your lungs are working fine. The oxygen level changes cause your blood vessels to increase their resistance at the lungs.
This all leads to lungs that are moving air really well but the air is hitting blood vessels that are tight and not flowing well.

This is what they are saying is happening with covid 19 for most of these patients earlier in the course. This is directly opposite of ARDS in which the lungs get inflammatory process that is well known to commence in several distinct phases. In that case the lungs are stiffer, inflamed, and not moving air across to blood vessels that are presumably working perfectly fine ready to take the air if the lungs would just start working.

Since I am not an intensivist, this could be a real challenge and differentiating which patients are typical covid19 blood vessel shunting with good lungs and which ones have gone into ARDS which is absolutely a possibility for any systemic wide infection like this regardless of usual disease pattern.
Hey, Doc how do you like this? My state has already flattened the curve!

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ted-to-flatten-the-curve-20200405-p54h9v.html

Ignore the fine print: "However, the recent rise in the number of locally transmitted cases – those with no link to someone who was infected overseas – is a worry for authorities. At 75, there are more than triple the number of community transmission cases than there were a week ago, and Dr Sutton said these cases would grow as testing expanded to public-facing workforces including healthcare workers, police and prison staff".

See? The problem is testing. Too much testing. Our state has been on the forefront of not testing anybody, testing half as much as any other state in Australia and refusing to test for community transmission. So we nailed it! If you don't test anybody, then you too can flatten the curve in no time. Hopefully this news story means that all of my fellow Victorians stop worrying about social distancing now, as all is well.
 

ThatOneDude

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This guy was one of my attendings. He's probably one of the smartest people I've ever met in my entire life. You know how some people become an emergency doctor or some people becoming an internal medicine doctor? So he decided to do both. No biggie. Still works doing both.

He bought into what that New York City doctor is saying.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/srrezaie/status/1245942292265029635


He's suggesting that the solution is high flow nasal cannula (lots of oxygen up front) and then only intubate when you have to. Still very subjective on when choosing to intubate. But all the nerds and the emergency medicine critical care world seem to be going this route and away from the ARDS route.
If you were going to explain this to a retarded 5 year old how would you do that?
 

ThatOneDude

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Splinty @Splinty
My brother is going to start making mask for the family,based off the business insider article posted earlier. They say you can wash the blue towel masks 3 times. Do you think steam sterilizing in one of those baby bottle sterilizers would work?

 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
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Jan 16, 2015
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Splinty @Splinty
My brother is going to start making mask for the family,based off the business insider article posted earlier. They say you can wash the blue towel masks 3 times. Do you think steam sterilizing in one of those baby bottle sterilizers would work?

I know this is for Splinty, but no.
A dehydrator would work.
A simple toaster oven on warm or regular oven.
165 °for 30 minutes would kill SARS, so double it to sleep better.
 

ThatOneDude

Commander in @Chief, Dick Army
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I know this is for Splinty, but no.
A dehydrator would work.
A simple toaster oven on warm or regular oven.
165 °for 30 minutes would kill SARS, so double it to sleep better.
Why do you think steam sterilization would not work? My scientist wife seems to think it should work if you run it for say 6 minutes + instead of the 4 you do for bottles.
 

madmav

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my post about nuking china was deleted.. but you retards wanna blame other americans cuz they republican or democrat or whatever.. fucking Oof. Republican, democrat or independent.. you are american regardless.. everyone else can eat dicks
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Cimmunity
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Why do you think steam sterilization would not work? My scientist wife seems to think it should work if you run it for say 6 minutes + instead of the 4 you do for bottles.
Because of the humidity.
COVID-19 & other cv's are humidity thrivers, that's my understanding.
Hot and dry is what "kills" it.
 

Zeph

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Jan 22, 2015
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Lets dissect twitter misinformation...

Pol has been spamming this for a two days, note the usual anti @Lars stuff that makes pol tick. Why do these people hate the jews?
There is a pretty coordinated campaign by white nationalists to use 4chan as a recruitment tool/gateway drug. Due to lack moderation they can spread anything they like and the anonymity provides cover for a small group to act like a large group. See a lie repeated enough and it starts to gain legitimacy.
 

FINGERS

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Nov 14, 2019
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Also how everything online is forced to flow through google.
Name any device you purchase which doesn't have default software on it that is impossible to uninstall. Why the hell cant I uninstall Facebook from my phone when I've never used the site?
The Huawei P 40 is your frind.

No google at all
 

Yossarian

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lueVelvet

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If you were going to explain this to a retarded 5 year old how would you do that?
I know you’re joking but for the benefit of the others who didn’t get it... Splinty @Splinty can shoot me later for butchering this.

My understanding is there could be two main issues causing major lack of oxygen issues:

Lungs are working fine but the blood vessels are not and they’re UN able to get the oxygen needed.

or

Blood vessels are working fine but the lungs aren’t able to bring oxygen that is needed. (This seems to be the issue that most folks think is going on but could not be)

There’s a difference in approach to either problem but knowing which issues is affecting the particular patient at hand is still a huge problem and not easy to determine and proper treatment isn’t always what is administered. IE if the lungs are working fine but the blood vessels are not, intubation may not be the best solution in the beginning which seems to be what most places are doing sooner than later.

Now go back to playing games you kids.