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ThatOneDude

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I didnt see any shots fired until after he attacked them

This could be another tray tray martin. Everyone thought tray tray was an angel. Then you find out hes been caught with burglary tools and womens jewelry after being grabbed by security for graffiti at school.
Then when said suspected burglar is acting suspicious and neighborhood watch member confronts him about a possible burglary (which is legal) he is attacked by twitter handle @no_limit_nigga and beaten bloody so he stands his ground and he takes out the future career criminal.

Point is they show tray tray as a baby boy with skittles. Not the man flashing guns on Twitter, breaking into houses and serving suspension from school for possession that's confronted while prowling around a neighborhood hes not from.

It may very well come up that this georgia guy is a multiple time burglar. Or we could find out it was two formerly lawful citizens decided to execute a black man in broad daylight.
They initiated a confrontation, guns drawn, in the middle of the street. Fuck the pig and his son.
 
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tell me about the stats.

include some discussion on Selection Bias.
Black people are stopped at a higher rate because they commit crime at a higher rate. Not sure where you live but its completely obvious to me. I pull up to a grocery store in a white neighborhood I get a wave. In a black neighborhood its 5 guys asking if I need crack or weed or heroin.

Even the music is all about shooting killing and drugs. The rappers die all the time from murder and overdose. Name any other genre of music that's even close to the criminality of rap.

Open your goddamn eyes
 
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Well see statistics are "mathematics dealing with the collection, analysis, interpretation, and presentation of masses of numerical data".

In this case federal statistics have long shown there is a crime problem in the black community. Simple people like you take that as racist,
and assume there must be a bias. There is not, it is very simply a fact. It does not assume the crime has anything to do with their race, it simply identifies that there is a problem within that community. You should also know that most victims of black criminals are black as well. So pretending a problem doesn't exist isn't helping the people who most need it.

Statistics, how do they work?


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wipe that shat off your chin.

you're dribbling again
 
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They initiated a confrontation, guns drawn, in the middle of the street. Fuck the pig and his son.
That's what's on camera. You dont know what happened prior.

If you were running down a street and a resident asked what your doing would you explain or just run while they called police and followed you?

If they stopped and had guns drawn would you attack them? Makes no sense. If he was just standing there and got shot thats different he ran at them like a mental patient on pcp.

And if they are fucking klansmen then hang them. But media skips past many many murders of innocent whites by blacks. Every. Single. Day.

Wheres our justice? Wheres our peace?
 
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ThatOneDude

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That's what's on camera. You dont know what happened prior.

If you were running down a street and a resident asked what your doing would you explain or just run while they called police and followed you?

If they stopped and had guns drawn would you attack them? Makes no sense. If he was just standing there and got shot thats different he ran at them like a mental patient on pcp.

And even if they are fucking klansmen the hang them. But media skips past many many murders of innocent whites by blacks. Every. Single. Day.

Wheres our justice? Wheres our peace?
I'd continue to run, like tons of people do on a regular basis.
Yes, if they had guns drawn while I go for a run, and they attempt to stop me for no reason, there's going to be a problem. In what world do people get to randomly stop people going for a run?

The media is not some authority, who cares what they do or do not report on?

And thank you for the reminder, I think I will have a toke.
 
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I'd continue to run, like tons of people do on a regular basis.
Yes, if they had guns drawn while I go for a run, and they attempt to stop me for no reason, there's going to be a problem. In what world do people get to randomly stop people going for a run?

The media is not some authority, who cares what they do or do not report on?
In a world where that neighborhood has had multiple burglaries before the shooting.
They saw him coming out of a house that was under construction that was not owned by him or his family. Then he ran.
Georgia also has legal citizens arrest.

Rewatch the video. He runs straight at the guys from a good distance. Two guys with zero criminal history that were trying to keep the neighborhood they lived in safe.

Then this guy attacks them. He swung on a armed person. And he paid the price
 

ThatOneDude

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In a world where that neighborhood has had multiple burglaries before the shooting.
They saw him coming out of a house that was under construction that was not owned by him or his family. Then he ran.

Georgia also has legal citizens arrest.

Rewatch the video. He runs straight at the guys from a good distance. Two guys with zero criminal history that were trying to keep the neighborhood they lived in safe.

Then this guys who they confront attacks them. He swung on a armed person. And he paid the price
Can you provide me with a source for the details I "highlighted"? That's new information.
 
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Can you provide me with a source for the details I "highlighted"? That's new information.
Absolutley. Heres the full link and a few good pieces of info. Note nothing about the whites being proven to be racists. But plenty of evidence that this guy wasn't the sweet smiling college boy they make him out to be

Online protests erupted after a Georgia black jogger was shot dead - Insider

"Gregory McMichael told police he thought Arbery was the suspect in a string of break-ins. Arbery died after being shot twice in after "a struggle over the shotgun," according to The Times

However, according to the Times, someone called the police station and said a black man with a white t-shirt had run inside a house under construction that was only "partially closed in."

"And he's running right now," the man told the dispatcher. "There he goes right now!

Arbery had some run-ins with police in the past, included being "sentenced to five years' probation as a first offender on charges of carrying a weapon on campus and several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer," the AJC reported. Arbery was also charged for shoplifting and violating his probation in 2018, according to the AJC."
 

ThatOneDude

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So it sounds like someone not the piggily wiggily and his son called the police, and then these 2 yahoo's start chasing some guy out for a run. Am I understanding the series of events right?

Did they find any stolen property on him or evidence that he was the guy in the house?
 
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So it sounds like someone not the piggily wiggily and his son called the police, and then these 2 yahoo's start chasing some guy out for a run. Did they find any stolen property on him or evidence that he was the guy in the house?
Sounds to me like the whole neighborhood was after him. He ran cause he was guilty imo. Lots of construction guys dont leave behind tools cause they get stolen alot. Most take them home or put them into gang boxes. Still not sure if he had anything stolen but it doesn't mean a burglary didnt occur

The person who filmed was probably also following him to make sure he got caught. The way it's looking now I think it's a clean shoot and hes a criminal running from justice. Fuck him.


But to be angry they were defending their neighborhood is ridiculous. This guy was a fucking criminal and they were law abiding citizens. If someone hurt a member of your family I'm sure you would want them caught not a bunch of fucking pussys watching him run away. We need more men like these two upstanding citizens who risked their lives to eliminate a threat to the community
 

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Sounds to me like the whole neighborhood was after him. He ran cause he was guilty imo. Lots of construction guys dont leave behind tools cause they get stolen alot. Most take them home or put them into gang boxes. Still not sure if he had anything stolen but it doesn't mean a burglary didnt occur

The person who filmed was probably also following him to make sure he got caught. The way it's looking now I think it's a clean shoot and hes a criminal running from justice. Fuck him.


But to be angry they were defending their neighborhood is ridiculous. This guy was a fucking criminal and they were law abiding citizens. If someone hurt a member of your family I'm sure you would want them caught not a bunch of fucking pussys watching him run away. We need more men like these two upstanding citizens who risked their lives to eliminate a threat to the community
Hmmm, I feel like we need to know a few more facts before we pass judgement imo.
If it went as you say, and those facts come out, then it's a clean kill by the piggily wiggily and his son.
 
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Hmmm, I feel like we need to know a few more facts before we pass judgement imo.
If it went as you say, and those facts come out, then it's a clean kill by the piggily wiggily and his son.
That's why we look at the facts. Those two were not the only ones who suspected him. He matched the description of a burglar given to police moments prior. Former police tried to make citizens arrest. He goes for the gun hes not legally allowed to possess cause hes a felon. He dies for a his own sins. The world screams racism. If he was white I'm pretty sure they would have killed him too. But you would never hear about it. Because racism.

Now wheres the outrage for the two innocent whites pulled from their bed while sleeping and taken to a road at night and executed?

Wheres the protests?
 
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ThatOneDude

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That's why we look at the facts. Those two were not the only ones who suspected him. He matched the description of a burglar given to police moments prior. Former police tried to make citizens arrest. He goes for the gun hes not legally allowed to possess cause hes a felon. He dies for a his own sins. The world screams racism. If he was white I'm pretty sure they would have killed him too. But you would never hear about it. Because racism.

Now wheres the outrage for the two innocent whites pulled from their bed while sleeping and taken to a road at night and executed?

Wheres the protests? Fuck that guy in georgia.
He's a felon from the incident where he carried a gun on campus right?
 

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I didnt see any shots fired until after he attacked them

This could be another tray tray martin. Everyone thought tray tray was an angel. Then you find out hes been caught with burglary tools and womens jewelry after being grabbed by security for graffiti at school.
Then when said suspected burglar is acting suspicious and neighborhood watch member confronts him about a possible burglary (which is legal) he is attacked by twitter handle @no_limit_nigga and beaten bloody so he stands his ground and he takes out the future career criminal.

Point is they show tray tray as a baby boy with skittles. Not the man flashing guns on Twitter, breaking into houses and serving suspension from school for possession that's confronted while prowling around a neighborhood hes not from.

It may very well come up that this georgia guy is a multiple time burglar. Or we could find out it was two formerly lawful citizens decided to execute a black man in broad daylight.
Zimmerman was found Not Guilty because at the moment he drew his weapon and fired, he was on his back getting his face punched in.

None of the other things mattered.

and these guys weren't on their back getting their collective faces punched in. So it's not the same. Not even close.
 
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He's a felon from the incident where he carried a gun on campus right?
Bringing a gun to campus is a felony. It doesn't say whether he had a permit or not. But either way hes bringing a gun to school

And dont skip past the "several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer" this goes to show he has little regard for law enforcement. And his criminal history shows his lack of regard for laws in general.

Everyone should find a truly innocent man to rally behind. This isn't the one and nobodys going to jail for killing a criminal. Just like in st louis when the guy robbed a store and punched a cop. Just like tray tray attacking a citizen.
 

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Bringing a gun to campus is a felony. It doesn't say whether he had a permit or not. But either way hes bringing a gun to school

And dont skip past the "several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer" this goes to show he has little regard for law enforcement. And his criminal history shows his lack of regard for laws in general.

Everyone should find a truly innocent man to rally behind. This isn't the one and nobodys going to jail for killing a criminal. Just like in st louis when the guy robbed a store and punched a cop. Just like tray tray attacking a citizen.
The gun charge concerns me, I don't think highly of law enforcement so I personally am not going to hold that against the guy.
 
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Zimmerman was found Not Guilty because at the moment he drew his weapon and fired, he was on his back getting his face punched in.

None of the other things mattered.

and these guys weren't on their back getting their collective faces punched in. So it's not the same. Not even close.
This guy tried to take a shotgun from an armed citizen who was acting within legal limits trying to detain a suspected criminal. A criminal who was already called into police by a different witness. A man with a history of theft and weapons offenses
 
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Filthy

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That's what's on camera. You dont know what happened prior.

If you were running down a street and a resident asked what your doing would you explain or just run while they called police and followed you?

If they stopped and had guns drawn would you attack them? Makes no sense. If he was just standing there and got shot thats different he ran at them like a mental patient on pcp.

And even if they are fucking klansmen the hang them. But media skips past many many murders of innocent whites by blacks. Every. Single. Day.

Wheres our justice? Wheres our peace?
it's in the courtroom.

which is something that is regularly denied poor people, of which a large number are black.
 

Filthy

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This guy tried to take a shotgun from an armed citizen who was acting within legal limits trying to detain a suspected criminal. A criminal who was already called into police by a different witness. A man with a history of theft and weapons offenses

Not the same your right. But another clean shoot that everyones crying about.

They should be praised
just the term 'clean shoot' is dehumanizing and gross. They shot a guy in the street in a situation where Law Enforcement had not asked them to make an arrest. They're way out in the margins already.

they did not have immediate knowledge of the crime, because they had not witnessed the crime.

They were not making a legal (or moral, IMAO) citizen's arrest.
 

ThatOneDude

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just the term 'clean shoot' is dehumanizing and gross. They shot a guy in the street in a situation where Law Enforcement had not asked them to make an arrest. They're way out in the margins already.

they did not have immediate knowledge of the crime, because they had not witnessed the crime.

They were not making a legal (or moral, IMAO) citizen's arrest.
How'd they know about it so quickly if they didn't witness it? I'm undecided so just trying to get some more info.
 

Filthy

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How'd they know about it so quickly if they didn't witness it? I'm undecided so just trying to get some more info.
they say he 'matched the description' of someone who was on video suspected of burglarizing homes in the area. As I understand it, they were unarmed when they saw him, armed themselves, and them instituted a chase in their truck.

and you saw the video of what happened next.

EDIT: Not sure if they saw the video, or just the description
 

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Odd choice of clothing for someone who is out for a jog.

Odd use of a gun for two grown men approaching a much smaller and unarmed man.