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Zeph said:
Then judge someone on the merits of their post and debate their arguments on its merits. Don't judge them on when they joined and use it as a reason for one opinion to be more valid than another. If they had an opinion and your only answer was, 'I have been watching longer, so I am right', I think that says more about one person than the other.
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I explained why some people feel the way they do and you irrationally accuse me of the behavior. Hmmm
 
de braco said:
I explained why some people feel the way they do and you irrationally accuse me of the behavior. Hmmm
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I didn't accuse you. You defended that behavior, and I gave an example of the behaviour I was talking about. I never once said that was what you did.
 
Cindy O hopefully will get what is coming to her and I hope it's discovered that Zuffa is also responsible for slander and is sued and made to pay up.
 
Regarding join dates, I remember some guy making a thread demanding respect.
You opened up the thread and he was offering to buy a join date pre-TUF.
It was a hilarious thread.
 
sparkuri said:
MenTaL knows all.
Be he was not the initial whistleblower.
All I can say is there are thousands out of the hundreds of thousands much more knowledgable than I on that topic, and I assume hundreds capable of knowing w/o being in a key position.
But I'm sure, just like any informative post, those threads were moved to "what if" to be de-validated, then disolved.
I can say there were a few openly candid about it on a thread, there was a hint of a mod/former mod, and I suspected as much.
Sorry I have nothing else on that.
EY keeps screenshots on a lot of stuff like that?
It's worth a shot...
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Seems like I remember the IP address thing
 
dacofty said:
Seems like I remember the IP address thing
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It started off by narrowing it down.
Someone got the state, then down to the city(Las Vegas), then down to the block, then down to the building(Zuffa HQ).
I'm not sure how any of that works...
 
There are some innacuracies and exaggerations on this thread that should be cleared up, but I'm finding it really hard to care enough to do so.

Bottom line is the chickens are coming home to roost in multiple ways for the Zuffastocracy.
 
sparkuri said:
It started off by narrowing it down.
Someone got the state, then down to the city(Las Vegas), then down to the block, then down to the building(Zuffa HQ).
I'm not sure how any of that works...
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It would be down to the IP, and back tracing it through whois.
 
sparkuri said:
It started off by narrowing it down.
Someone got the state, then down to the city(Las Vegas), then down to the block, then down to the building(Zuffa HQ).
I'm not sure how any of that works...
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I studied Cisco Networking and this sounds like some BS to me...
You can easily take an IP and plug it into any IP finder to get a continent/state/city/ISP... But the most that can do is tell you what ISP owns that IP, not who that ISP has assigned that IP. You can do a whois but again, that only narrows it down to ISP as well.

Essentially there are several large governing bodies that allocate IP addresses to ISPs. The ISPs are given a block of IP addresses that they then lease out to it's customers. There is no legal way for an outsider to trace an IP to a specific person/company unless they willingly give that information (such as, saying "Hey I work for Zuffa and am posting from work now" and then the server logging that IP)

Unless Zuffa has been specifically given a block of IPs from ARIN (the governing body handing out IPs in America), then they are utilizing IPs leased to them by their ISP. To find out what IPs zuffa uses you'd need to hack into the ISPs DHCP server (the server that automatically manages the leased IP addresses).

Anyone else with knowledge in networking, can you confirm this?

EDIT: I have a buddy with a CCNP and studying for his CCIE, I'll ask him how possible this is
 
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de braco said:
pretty sure zuffa bought a piece of the UG shortly after they purchased the promotion from SEG. The UFC website and the UG both changed to a .tv at the same time and i'm pretty sure Roy did the design for zuffa.
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This is not accurate. Zuffa has no formal ownership stake in mixedmartialarts.com. They are a major advertiser, however, and so you can take that to mean whatever you will. If advertising comprises a significant percentage of your revenue, the biggest advertiser does have significant clout. This is true in both digital and traditional media.

The .tv change was made to parallel the ufc, but was not indicative of anything more. Also, at the time, MMA.com was owned by a marketing company, as it still is today.

In addition to the advertising clout, Kirik has always maintained that he wanted to keep a pipeline of contact to fighters, special promotions and the management at the UFC after seeing the consequences Sherdog and FcFighter faced for being critical. It was a business decision and one he's caught a lot of heat for over the years, but it kept the site positioned as THE place for insider info for years, not coincidentally because of the number of Zuffa employees and allies who posted there over the years.

Roy did help the UFC design their new site though, which doesn't prove ownership as much as cronyism, which was fairly common in the insular pre-TUF MMA industry.
 
BJTT-FrankRizzo said:
In highscool I was known as Andy O. On behalf of all the O's out there this fucking Cindy is a disgrace. I really dislike bullshit propaganda.
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Yeah this. No relation! I do all my shillin, libellin and harassin under my own name.

That said when I finally quit being a forever lurker to throw my lot in with the rebellion I was hesitant about my name as I could read between the lines some on how people felt about her, but figured the hell with it.

Er...Yay Zuffa!
 
canofsticks said:
I studied Cisco Networking and this sounds like some BS to me...
You can easily take an IP and plug it into any IP finder to get a continent/state/city/ISP... But the most that can do is tell you what ISP owns that IP, not who that ISP has assigned that IP. You can do a whois but again, that only narrows it down to ISP as well.

Essentially there are several large governing bodies that allocate IP addresses to ISPs. The ISPs are given a block of IP addresses that they then lease out to it's customers. There is no legal way for an outsider to trace an IP to a specific person/company unless they willingly give that information (such as, saying "Hey I work for Zuffa and am posting from work now" and then the server logging that IP)

Unless Zuffa has been specifically given a block of IPs from ARIN (the governing body handing out IPs in America), then they are utilizing IPs leased to them by their ISP. To find out what IPs zuffa uses you'd need to hack into the ISPs DHCP server (the server that automatically manages the leased IP addresses).

Anyone else with knowledge in networking, can you confirm this?

EDIT: I have a buddy with a CCNP and studying for his CCIE, I'll ask him how possible this is
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Again, way over my head.
I'd had the impression an employee/ former employee had a hand in it.
The thread exists.
 
It doesn't surprise me at all that she's having problems on account of being a childish moron with her head up Dana's ass. She always made me think that the UFC is run like the athletic commisions and full of people who have no business doing what they're doing, but they know somebody important and keep a job they're imcompetent at for years.

My problem isn't that she was a dishonest shill, it's how TERRIBLE she was at it. The woman never had the intelligence or grasp on logic to even make her shilling seem reasonable. Orcus is a god compared to her. At least he knows how to twist the facts properly to make it seem like he has a point. Cindy just smugly spewed some asinine stupidity at you and expected you to swallow it because she thought she was important.

Her posts were so stupid it would just make things worse and lead to more people calling out whatever bullshit she was defending. If someone is paid to pretend they think a certain way or defend a company online, fine. I'd do it too. Easy money. But Cindy was mentally unqualified for the job and should have been fired immediately based on her performance of it.
 
Kneeblock said:
This is not accurate. Zuffa has no formal ownership stake in mixedmartialarts.com. They are a major advertiser, however, and so you can take that to mean whatever you will. If advertising comprises a significant percentage of your revenue, the biggest advertiser does have significant clout. This is true in both digital and traditional media.

The .tv change was made to parallel the ufc, but was not indicative of anything more. Also, at the time, MMA.com was owned by a marketing company, as it still is today.

In addition to the advertising clout, Kirik has always maintained that he wanted to keep a pipeline of contact to fighters, special promotions and the management at the UFC after seeing the consequences Sherdog and FcFighter faced for being critical. It was a business decision and one he's caught a lot of heat for over the years, but it kept the site positioned as THE place for insider info for years, not coincidentally because of the number of Zuffa employees and allies who posted there over the years.

Roy did help the UFC design their new site though, which doesn't prove ownership as much as cronyism, which was fairly common in the insular pre-TUF MMA industry.
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I don't buy that and never have
 
FeeO said:
Yeah this. No relation! I do all my shillin, libellin and harassin under my own name.

That said when I finally quit being a forever lurker to throw my lot in with the rebellion I was hesitant about my name as I could read between the lines some on how people felt about her, but figured the hell with it.

Er...Yay Zuffa!
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Alright, we believe you, Cindy 2.O.
 
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Kneeblock said:
This is not accurate. Zuffa has no formal ownership stake in mixedmartialarts.com. They are a major advertiser, however, and so you can take that to mean whatever you will. If advertising comprises a significant percentage of your revenue, the biggest advertiser does have significant clout. This is true in both digital and traditional media.

The .tv change was made to parallel the ufc, but was not indicative of anything more. Also, at the time, MMA.com was owned by a marketing company, as it still is today.

In addition to the advertising clout, Kirik has always maintained that he wanted to keep a pipeline of contact to fighters, special promotions and the management at the UFC after seeing the consequences Sherdog and FcFighter faced for being critical. It was a business decision and one he's caught a lot of heat for over the years, but it kept the site positioned as THE place for insider info for years, not coincidentally because of the number of Zuffa employees and allies who posted there over the years.

Roy did help the UFC design their new site though, which doesn't prove ownership as much as cronyism, which was fairly common in the insular pre-TUF MMA industry.
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Also WTF are you babbling about mma.com. That was never the name of the site, it was mixedmartialarts.com (and spoofed at mixedmartialart.com) after submissionfighting and before .tv. After the .tv the whole place took on a different vibe
 
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JohnyHendricksBeard said:
@ThatOneDude What's with the rainbow party?
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There's a war going on sir, you were caught in the cross fire. I hope your multicolored wounds heal, but in the mean time
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ThatOneDude said:
There's a war going on sir, you were caught in the cross fire. I hope your multicolored wounds heal, but in the mean time
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I don't really care about receiving a rainbow, or who's on what side. I was more curious if you'd like to articulate why you've got beef with the people here voicing their frustrations. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
 
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