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Qat

QoQ
Nov 3, 2015
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I like the Sweden model.
They took a little different route, there is pros to that too, however the numbers don't lie. They have more deaths per mil (~530) than the US (~407) and much more than Germany (~110) or their Scandinavian neighbors in Norway (~46), Finland (~59) or Denmark (~104).

And that with them having a far healthier population than you have and also we have. Not so many fatties there.

So far it looks like their model wasn't that good regarding protecting their population.
 

Shinkicker

For what it's worth
Jan 30, 2016
10,476
13,954
"On Tuesday, a record 3,851 people were hospitalized for the coronavirus in the Houston region,.."

Oh shit.
 
D

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"On Tuesday, a record 3,851 people were hospitalized for the coronavirus in the Houston region,.."

Oh shit.
The current twitter conspiracy is that all the deaths have already happened and this thing is burning itself out.
I want to poopoo that stupidity for a second.

The only reason that deaths have been going down is New York and New Jersey. That and the other spread occurring in less dense populated areas that dont need the same level of intervention as urban centers.

That is, lots of people died there already and those ares have instituted heavy interventions.

The same twitter memes and threads promoting this idea are ignoring that the cases/deaths are going down due masks and interventions there.

This has been the case for the last month. American getting coronavirus under control has just been NYC and NJ getting their outbreak under control and then that affecting our overall stats so strongly.




Confirmed
3.11M
+62,425
Deaths
134K
+810
LocationConfirmedDeaths
New York404K31,945
California296K6,708
Texas229K
+9,979
2,935
+98
Florida224K
+9,989
3,888
+48
New Jersey176K
+161
15,423


There's nothing magical here. If you have more cases in an undifferentiated population, you will have more deaths. The lag time is happening now. We will bump deaths down here in a few weeks. And then twitter will move on to its next undermining of a unified response that could get us back to life sooner.

Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, Beaumont, Tyler are all dense enough that they could see hospital shortages. Not good.
 
D

Deleted member 1

Guest
Anyone have thoughts on this?
All over the news for the last few days. Just pulled a random link.


News is making a big deal of an outbreak at summer camp. This is a microcosm for school reopening.
How many kids got hurt? How many died?
If none, then risk/benefits of going to camp/school reopening.
Maybe kids are low enough risk (at the less than teenager age) to consider letting them get back together in setting like this.


But what about the counselors and teachers? What do you do there where they are at much higher risk than usual?
What about the public health aspect of them all infecting each other rapidly then sending those cases home to the parents straining the healthcare system?

The kids getting infected seem a relatively low risk compared to other risks we accept in life. But the whole picture feels like a hard one to solve.
 

ThatOneDude

Commander in @Chief, Dick Army
First 100
Jan 14, 2015
35,368
34,139
Anyone have thoughts on this?
All over the news for the last few days. Just pulled a random link.


News is making a big deal of an outbreak at summer camp. This is a microcosm for school reopening.
How many kids got hurt? How many died?
If none, then risk/benefits of going to camp/school reopening.
Maybe kids are low enough risk (at the less than teenager age) to consider letting them get back together in setting like this.


But what about the counselors and teachers? What do you do there where they are at much higher risk than usual?
What about the public health aspect of them all infecting each other rapidly then sending those cases home to the parents straining the healthcare system?

The kids getting infected seem a relatively low risk compared to other risks we accept in life. But the whole picture feels like a hard one to solve.
I can only comment on our sons daycare. There have been a couple of adult cases but none among the children yet, which I find interesting. They are also taking precautions, teachers don't cross pollinate between rooms, stuff like that. If the kids are getting it they are asymptomatic and not infecting others.
 

IschKabibble

zero
First 100
Jan 15, 2015
17,697
24,053
And then twitter will move on to its next undermining of a unified response that could get us back to life sooner.
I don't disagree with you, but you can't blame the agitated public when the experts have failed to provide a unified consensus.
 

Yossarian

TMMAC Addict
Oct 25, 2015
13,485
19,123
The current twitter conspiracy is that all the deaths have already happened and this thing is burning itself out.
I want to poopoo that stupidity for a second.

The only reason that deaths have been going down is New York and New Jersey. That and the other spread occurring in less dense populated areas that dont need the same level of intervention as urban centers.

That is, lots of people died there already and those ares have instituted heavy interventions.

The same twitter memes and threads promoting this idea are ignoring that the cases/deaths are going down due masks and interventions there.

This has been the case for the last month. American getting coronavirus under control has just been NYC and NJ getting their outbreak under control and then that affecting our overall stats so strongly.




Confirmed
3.11M
+62,425
Deaths
134K
+810
LocationConfirmedDeaths
New York404K31,945
California296K6,708
Texas229K
+9,979
2,935
+98
Florida224K
+9,989
3,888
+48
New Jersey176K
+161
15,423


There's nothing magical here. If you have more cases in an undifferentiated population, you will have more deaths. The lag time is happening now. We will bump deaths down here in a few weeks. And then twitter will move on to its next undermining of a unified response that could get us back to life sooner.

Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, Beaumont, Tyler are all dense enough that they could see hospital shortages. Not good.
Tldr: Twitter makes one dumber.