Lol point and case.
Are you a doctor? Do you have a medical opinion on whether masks are effective or not?
Not sure.
Yes, so far that has been the case, which was nice to see. They have been very open with sharing as much info as they can.
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Tomorrow or Saturday. That's when we'll break NY's record.
According to the Department of Health, 8,935 new cases were reported between Wednesday and Thursday. The number of tests in that period was lower than usual, at 37,247.
Nonetheless, the state also breached another record with a 23.9% positive rate for the day’s numbers — beating a previous high of 20.8% and indicating that the virus’ spread is not slowing down.
According to the Department of Health, 8,935 new cases were reported between Wednesday and Thursday. The number of tests in that period was lower than usual, at 37,247.
Nonetheless, the state also breached another record with a 23.9% positive rate for the day’s numbers — beating a previous high of 20.8% and indicating that the virus’ spread is not slowing down.
I'm being facetious. But if you wanna argue that point, I'd like to see an evidence-based, peer-reviewed article to back up the comparison.
My point is there's no medical consensus. We're all in this together, and we're all trying to play it safe. But the pretentious crowd has gotta stop projecting like they know what's best for everyone else. Politics and medicine shold never mix.
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There's no medical consensus on masks? Doctors have been wearing them for a century now, ever since we knew what germs were. A mask protects others, was always the case, will always be the case.
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It's served me well so far buddy. My personal frustration comes from the complete 180 on public medical advice. The medical community at large was just telling us a few months ago masks weren't effective, that they'd instill a false sense of security, and needed to be reserved for medical providers and the sick.
And now everyone should be wearing one and we're all idiot Trumptards if we don't. Maybe if one of those public officials came forward and admitted they were wrong in the beginning, we'd have a little easier time accepting their advice going forward.
Surgical Mask vs N95 Respirator for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Workers
Abstract
Context Data about the effectiveness of the surgical mask compared with the N95 respirator for protecting health care workers against influenza are sparse. Given the likelihood that N95 respirators will be in short supply during a pandemic and not available in many countries, knowing the effectiveness of the surgical mask is of public health importance.
Objective To compare the surgical mask with the N95 respirator in protecting health care workers against influenza.
Design, Setting, and Participants Noninferiority randomized controlled trial of 446 nurses in emergency departments, medical units, and pediatric units in 8 tertiary care Ontario hospitals.
Intervention Assignment to either a fit-tested N95 respirator or a surgical mask when providing care to patients with febrile respiratory illness during the 2008-2009 influenza season.
Main Outcome Measures The primary outcome was laboratory-confirmed influenza measured by polymerase chain reaction or a 4-fold rise in hemagglutinin titers. Effectiveness of the surgical mask was assessed as noninferiority of the surgical mask compared with the N95 respirator. The criterion for noninferiority was met if the lower limit of the 95% confidence interval (CI) for the reduction in incidence (N95 respirator minus surgical group) was greater than −9%.
Results Between September 23, 2008, and December 8, 2008, 478 nurses were assessed for eligibility and 446 nurses were enrolled and randomly assigned the intervention; 225 were allocated to receive surgical masks and 221 to N95 respirators. Influenza infection occurred in 50 nurses (23.6%) in the surgical mask group and in 48 (22.9%) in the N95 respirator group (absolute risk difference, −0.73%; 95% CI, −8.8% to 7.3%; P = .86), the lower confidence limit being inside the noninferiority limit of −9%.
Conclusion Among nurses in Ontario tertiary care hospitals, use of a surgical mask compared with an N95 respirator resulted in noninferior rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
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Abstract
Context Data about the effectiveness of the surgical mask compared with the N95 respirator for protecting health care workers against influenza are sparse. Given the likelihood that N95 respirators will be in short supply during a pandemic and not available in many countries, knowing the effectiveness of the surgical mask is of public health importance.
Objective To compare the surgical mask with the N95 respirator in protecting health care workers against influenza.
Design, Setting, and Participants Noninferiority randomized controlled trial of 446 nurses in emergency departments, medical units, and pediatric units in 8 tertiary care Ontario hospitals.
Intervention Assignment to either a fit-tested N95 respirator or a surgical mask when providing care to patients with febrile respiratory illness during the 2008-2009 influenza season.
Main Outcome Measures The primary outcome was laboratory-confirmed influenza measured by polymerase chain reaction or a 4-fold rise in hemagglutinin titers. Effectiveness of the surgical mask was assessed as noninferiority of the surgical mask compared with the N95 respirator. The criterion for noninferiority was met if the lower limit of the 95% confidence interval (CI) for the reduction in incidence (N95 respirator minus surgical group) was greater than −9%.
Results Between September 23, 2008, and December 8, 2008, 478 nurses were assessed for eligibility and 446 nurses were enrolled and randomly assigned the intervention; 225 were allocated to receive surgical masks and 221 to N95 respirators. Influenza infection occurred in 50 nurses (23.6%) in the surgical mask group and in 48 (22.9%) in the N95 respirator group (absolute risk difference, −0.73%; 95% CI, −8.8% to 7.3%; P = .86), the lower confidence limit being inside the noninferiority limit of −9%.
Conclusion Among nurses in Ontario tertiary care hospitals, use of a surgical mask compared with an N95 respirator resulted in noninferior rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
Surgical Mask vs N95 Respirator for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Workers
Context Data about the effectiveness of the surgical mask compared with the N95 respirator for protecting health care workers against influenza are sparse. Given the likelihood that N95 respirators will be in short supply during a pandemic and not available in many countries, knowing the...
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Top down messaging remains atrocious.
Political driven conspiracy memes are only partly a symptom of that though. Much if it is ideologues intentionally sowing misinformation for their own reasons.
So neither of them are all that effective
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The governor signed an order that said all schools had to reopen but then said he would approve any plans submitted by individual school districts (counties) that said otherwise.
The three largest school districts in the state have already said they won't be returning to in-person classes full-time. One of them said they will probably be fully online when schools reopen next month.
Classic Ron DeSantis move. He couldn't lead a 2 man marching band.
Governor: Idk how 2 lead, pls help guys thx.
County mayors: Um ok.
Imagine being a lay person in this time...
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Good point. I still think it's safer to wear a mask though.
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Shit.
Texas doesn't even feel like it's in the running compared to this insanity.
You the real MVP Florida
We’ll get there! Don’t lose hope!
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In both groups over 75% didn't contract influenza. Understandably they didn't have a maskless control group, but do you not think infections would have been higher if no masks had been worn?
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I'm impressed that Florida has so many cases and still manages such a high positivity rate.
This is a once-in-a-generation viral phenom.
Florida is dynamic and explosive all at once. Florida can drug you, rob you, infect you. Wherever you go, Florida is gonna take you down.
They really are in a league all their own. Probably why such amazing Americans like @conor mcgregor nut hugger and @Susan hail from there.