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One week after the 2016 election. Tomorrow will be two weeks after the 2020 election and 10 days after media outlets declared a winner.
Disgrazia.
Disgrazia.
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@HEATH VON DOOM said you could show me the pic
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Are you suggesting that people changed Trump ballots to Biden and that either no one else noticed or that they're all in on it?
Ffs think about the rationality of the stupid shit you're spamming in this thread.
Are these what if's or did these things happen?
The fact that those are a contract, and official review are problematic.
So yeah. Maricopa happened in 2017. Was the result fudged with?
Certainly the ability to is in there.
Would they have needed to take advantage of it?
Who was watching at 4 in the morning?
Are you upset your side got caught?
I honestly don't see anything weird with the company who makes the machine being able to go in and change things, that's like expecting a mechanic not to be able to work on a car.
Who are staff?
Do we know if the staff can access the machines remotely to change votes?
Do we know what kind of logging the machines keep?
Experts find more than 30 U.S. voting systems connected to internet
A team of election security experts used a “Google for servers” to challenge claims that voting machines do not connect to the internet and found some did.
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Too stupid of a post to deserve a reply.
Consider higher education. I mean that sincerely.
Like I said, it's interesting that higher order thinking to you, is taught during tertiary education.
Have you been taught how to do everything in life?
So it sounds like it wasn't very many voting machines attached to the internet overall, I wonder if that number grew or shrunk between the article and the election.Experts find more than 30 U.S. voting systems connected to internet
A team of election security experts used a “Google for servers” to challenge claims that voting machines do not connect to the internet and found some did.www.nbcnews.com
Experts find more than 30 U.S. voting systems connected to internet
A team of election security experts used a “Google for servers” to challenge claims that voting machines do not connect to the internet and found some did.
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1328400434487128065
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There is a certain critical thinking ability you clearly lack. It comes more often than not from higher education. This isn't disputable.
And yes, most humans acquire knowledge and skills through learning, not from instinct. This is also indisputable. It was probably covered on the high school exams you didn't show up for.
'The 35 systems Skoglund’s team found represent a fraction of total voting systems nationwide, though he believes they only captured a portion of the systems that are or have been online. Earlier this week, Skoglund showed NBC three election systems were still online even after officials had been told they were vulnerable.
For election systems to be online, even momentarily, presents a serious problem, according to Appel.
“Once a hacker starts talking to the voting machine through the modem, the hacker cannot just change these unofficial election results, they can hack the software in the voting machine and make it cheat in future elections,” he said.'
Yes I understand those things.
You couldn't even read what I wrote properly, and you're telling me how I think.
Pretty out there if there was evidence of previous fraud from smartmatic.
Search WikiLeaks
search.wikileaks.org
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The problem with partisans trying to create a "fair election" is this right here. You cant accuse others of doing something, with no evidence, while also expecting them to come to your side.
If you want to convince anyone of the need for more secure election, you have to do so when you have nothing to gain.
I agree with your raised points. I don't trust that the current system is secure, but that mostly appears to be due to these being niche companies creating niche custom machines. I have worked on this kind of stuff half my career and its always comically outdated with huge holes in it. They will do dumb stuff for workarounds, they probably have few employees and looking them up, indeed they are at " Size: 51 to 200 Employees " after 18 years. This is some small shop that got a contract.
There is ZERO idea in my mind that this is typical niche shop making a device that has GUI and features as primary development with security secondary. This is what sells it to bureaucrats that dont know what they dont know. They have no idea what questions to ask. But they can poke a screen and see how it works.
We should all be demanding better machines, paper trail, and open source code. Access to the machines should be secured and dumbass things like using the same usb key as a hardware token (dominion says to set the same encryption key on all of them lol "leave the passphrase blank") should be gone.
But even in the context of security flaws, machines were not unsecured, observers did not note significant irregularities (despite claims later retracted), and this election showed nothing significantly different than any other regarding voting routines.
We should be securing these machines and they should be hacked to test them and improve them to bolster against the future. But you're gonna have to give up the current fight to get people to agree to that.
I didn't pick his side, unfortunately.
Hell, I'm not even sure I have a side, given I'll willingly start a spat with anyone. I would like to think we've all got at least one thing in common, given we're on an MMA related subforum.
Point is, as you said, there are problems, and they need to be exposed.
So when it's connections with the shadowy characters on the left, after we know they tried to pay to bring about a new app - Shadow Inc, which has become blueprint - which failed miserably, so they had to go with the tried and tested Chavez/Soros connection.
Great stuff really.