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BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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If he was flying on the amphetamines and ready to crash hard afterwards on the opiates his behaviour makes sense, especially if he didn’t know what he had taken, really is a shit situation.

That shite bag that gave him the fentanyl should be on trial for murder as well, caused the mans death more than chauvin did.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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So, I'm just reading through the thread here.

Y'all know that choking people can't talk, right?
 
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The Big Guy

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Y'all know the difference between a blood choke and an air choke right?
You know he was saying he couldnt breath before he was kneeled on right?

People say alot of dumb shit when they are being arrested. I always scream about the juice
 

Freeloading Rusty

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You know he was saying he couldnt breath before he was kneeled on right?

People say alot of dumb shit when they are being arrested. I always scream about the juice
Im not saying the knee choked him to death, I dont know that answer. I am just highlighting the fact one could still talk while being choked.
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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Im not saying the knee choked him to death, I dont know that answer. I am just highlighting the fact one could still talk while being choked.
Not really man, if Floyd was being choked with a blood choke both carotid arteries and jugular would need to be compressed, he might be talking but not for very long, you couldn’t even apply pressure to those arteries from the way Chauvin knee was positioned either way .
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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I find it interesting he didn’t know he had pills with fent and meth in them, he was essentially addicted to painkillers right ?

Based on his “mommas” testimony they both had chronic pain and had prescribed pain killers, I take it his legal supply was cut off so he went to the dealers for what he needed and got fucked by cunt who was in the car with him when he was arrested.

What a complete bag of shit that fucker is, stood there knowing what was going to happen when that bag of pills kicked in and sat beside Floyd while he necked them as well.
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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You know he was saying he couldnt breath before he was kneeled on right?

People say alot of dumb shit when they are being arrested. I always scream about the juice
I got dog piled and kneeled on in a similar manner by about 6 bouncers one night, held me there while they waited for the cops, wasn’t quite 9 minutes but it felt like a fucking week. I was about 110kgs at that stage though and was fairly solid.

One of the pricks tried to tear my bicep off , worst thing about it, he sunk his claws so deep into my bicep I had finger bruises for weeks , whole bicep turned black:

I think get the fuck off me you cunts was the majority of my vocabulary, might have been an I can’t breath or 2 thrown in there as well but I can’t remember , I was fucking hammered.
 
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The Big Guy

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I got dog piled and kneeled on in a similar manner by about 6 bouncers one night, held me there while they waited for the cops, wasn’t quite 9 minutes but it felt like a fucking week. I was about 110kgs at that stage though and was fairly solid.

One of the pricks tried to tear my bicep off , worst thing about it, he sunk his claws so deep into my bicep I had finger bruises for weeks , whole bicep turned black:

I think get the fuck off me you cunts was the majority of my vocabulary, might have been an I can’t breath or 2 thrown in there as well but I can’t remember , I was fucking hammered.
If you ever do bjj you will have finger bruises on your biceps all the time. I dont know about turning black tho
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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If you ever do bjj you will have finger bruises on your biceps all the time. I dont know about turning black tho
From guys trying to grab your gi but actually pinching your arms? Just shoot your arms out.
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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If you ever do bjj you will have finger bruises on your biceps all the time. I dont know about turning black tho
I have rolled a few times but never to any level , boxing for a few years and judo as a kid is about all the experience I have .

Turned black blue and purple, I think he did tear some fibres off maybe, this was when I was already down, so I couldn’t see what he was doing but it felt like he was trying to tear my bicep off, at that stage I was goin no where anyway, evil cunt.
 
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The Big Guy

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From guys trying to grab your gi but actually pinching your arms? Just shoot your arms out.
I usually train nogi. Most bruises I get from a gi are from people attempting collar or lapel chokes

Nogi they are trying to get a bicep grip. Maybe I need more iron or something
 

jason73

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chauvin gets a manslaughter out of this. there are too many contributing factors to floyds death . he was high as fuck and foaming at the mouth .he had ODed a few weeks earlier and foamed at the mouth them too.he might have died from the fent regardless of a police encounter that day. hard to prove that death was the intent when chauvin knelt on his neck initially. i do think its bullshit to kneel on a guys neck for 9 minutes . chauvin has to be convicted of something .there is no way he walks .i think murder is too hard to prove but a negligent death conviction seems attainable .either way people aint going to be happy and they are going to start burning shit again
 

MountainMedic

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I would imagine he would have had a massive adrenaline spike as well from fighting with the cops and knowingly ingesting a lethal dose of fentanyl. Never mind the meth.
It's more likely that he was already loaded on both when he tried to swallow the evidence when LE showed up. Orally it would take about 15-20 for that to absorb it hits him all at once. Goes from his fighty "I can't breathe" game (just like last time) to 'shit, I really CAN'T breath'.
Just one paramedics opinion...
 

Hauler

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Fentanyl doesn't determine will.
It can still be murder with intent to kill.
Kaep said "Take a knee"
The cop said "Look at me"
I think they are going for a hostile and threatening environment caused by the crowd, specifically this witness , may have influenced Chauvins behaviour, especially towards the end.

Also trying to say he was angry and escalating the tension on the scene, effectively undermining his testimony.

I suppose there is an angle there for maintaining the restraint on Floyd if he felt the crowd was a threat. Not really though.
Butterfly effect.
Everything can effect everything to some degree.

But people are still responsible for their own actions.