General Corona virus updates

[Rambo John J]

Well, if the cost is getting the vaccine and the benefit is a return to normalcy that strikes me as worthwhile. If the cost is getting the vaccine and the benefit is nothing, that becomes substantially less clear.

Thanks for breaking that down
I wish/hope it is that simple and clear cut
I doubt normalcy returns for some regions even with majority vaccinated
I hope I am wrong about that

I asked you, what you meant by vaccine passport, I didnt ask for every possible interpretation. As I pointed out with cost/benefit what your vaccine passport looks like determines whether or not I'd be in favor.

I was asking for thoughts in general on any of those subtopics regarding vaccine passport.

If anybody has thoughts on any aspects of Vaccine Passports then the conversation can start there and evolve naturally.

Some states here have banned them...Some seem in favor of them.
Fauci says no federal Vaccine Passport...We would be wise to take all his statements with a truckload of salt.


So, I guess I will start with my thoughts and you or others can respond if inclined.

Personally, I think they are unconstitutional and invasive.
The logistics of a physical vaccination card seem far too complicated as far as updates/boostershots/fakes etc...
A digital vaxx card is the only system that would work logistically(I reckon that is the eventual plan), and I find a digital Vaxx app/card would only add to our current surveillance state. I am not in favor of either.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Thanks for breaking that down
I wish it was that simple and clear cut
I doubt normalcy returns for some regions even with majority vaccinated
I hope I am wrong about that


I was asking for thoughts in general on any of those subtopics regarding vaccine passport.

If anybody has thoughts on any aspects of Vaccine Passports then the conversation can start there and evolve naturally.

Some states here have banned them...Some seem in favor of them.


So, I guess I will start with my thoughts and you or others can respond if inclined.

Personally, I think they are unconstitutional and invasive.
The logistics of a physical vaccination card seem far too complicated as far as updates/boostershots/fakes etc...
A digital vaxx card is the only system that would work logistically(I reckon that is the eventual plan), and I find a digital Vaxx app/card would only add to our current surveillance state. I am not in favor of either.

Western society already has vaccine passports and has for a long time. That's why I ask for some qualification.

 

[Sheepdog]

We did it!

Canada Celebrates 15th Vaccination — The Toronto Harold

By Scott Slute Ottawa - As our neighbours to the south have just administered their 60 millionth COVID-19 vaccine, Canada has achieved a vaccine milestone of their own. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took time away from combing his hair to announce the monumental achievement on nation

www.thetorontoharold.com

Canada vaccinations per 100 people: 18
Australia vaccinations per 100 people: 3

 

[Rambo John J]

Western society already has vaccine passports and has for a long time. That's why I ask for some qualification.

I understand this, I wasn't speaking about other vaccinations.

I was speaking about the largest mass vaccination in human history, Coronavirus 19.


Specifically Covid 19 vaccine passports..
Their usage for everyday liberties in your city/state of residence.

If you don't wanna discuss it then that is cool, I wasn't asking for your thoughts specifically...I was asking in general to start a dialogue, it is a important topic on all of our horizon's.

 

[Rambo John J]

Canada vaccinations per 100 people: 18
Australia vaccinations per 100 people: 3

You guys locked down still?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I understand this, I wasn't speaking about other vaccinations.

I was speaking about the largest mass vaccination in human history, Coronavirus 19.


Specifically Covid 19 vaccine passports..
Their usage for everyday liberties in your city/state of residence.

If you don't wanna discuss it then that is cool, I wasn't asking for your thoughts specifically...I was asking in general to start a dialogue, it is a important topic on all of our horizon's.

I can't give you thoughts if you wont accurately disclose the topic. If they're saying "Get vaccinated or your get fired" that's wrong. If they say "No vaccine mo coming onto the country." That's not new mor would I have any problem with it.

This also isn't the largest mass vaccination by any objective metric.

 

[Sheepdog]

You guys locked down still?

Nah we're packing 75,000 people into football stadiums because we are currently virus free.

So a bunch of amateurs that can't organize a vaccine rollout are still doing way better than the rest of you.

 

[Grateful Dude]

Get one from Arkansas. Good hunting dogs and they can be found for cheaper before they go through training.

Hadn't thought about looking in Arkansas, that's a good idea! The breeders here are overpriced IMO (although they are reputable and produce good dogs), so I've been exploring other options. I was really hoping my buddies dog was going to be bred, but after 3 tries I don't think he's going to bother again.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Hadn't thought about looking in Arkansas, that's a good idea! The breeders here are overpriced IMO (although they are reputable and produce good dogs), so I've been exploring other options. I was really hoping my buddies dog was going to be bred, but after 3 tries I don't think he's going to bother again.

Yea man, you can find good dogs for cheap out there, especially up by Cross County. Once we have some land thats where I plan to get one from.

 

[Grateful Dude]

Retrievers are just the best dogs

Couldn't agree more. I really want my son to have the puppy experience as well. Maybe it is silly to some, but that is important to me, and as a parent that experience is something I want to provide for him. A house without a dog has been weird.

 

[Rambo John J]

This also isn't the largest mass vaccination by any objective metric.

What vaccine will be given to more people than Covid 19 Vaxx when this first run is complete?

I can't give you thoughts if you wont accurately disclose the topic. If they're saying "Get vaccinated or your get fired" that's wrong. If they say "No vaccine mo coming onto the country." That's not new mor would I have any problem with it.

What about a vaccine passport to enter your local grocery store?(is that specific enough lol)

 

[Rambo John J]

Nah we're packing 75,000 people into football stadiums because we are currently virus free.

Great to hear, sounds like all is well

Then why do you need vaccines?

 

[Sheepdog]

Great to hear, sounds like all is well

Then why do you need vaccines?

Because the lizard people want to turn everyone transgender.

 

[Rambo John J]

Because the lizard people want to turn everyone transgender.

how about a real answer?

You guys have a travel ban in place that requires Vaccines? Do people want them so they can leave the country and feel safer?

What types of restrictions are in effect? Would they lift if you had more vaccines?

Zero covid cases in the whole country?

Australia right?

 

[Rambo John J]

My favourite is 'It's not like it's the Spanish Flu'

Covid has already almost certainly killed more Americans in a year than the Spanish Flu did in two.

*Awaits some dipshit to post high-end estimates of Spanish Flu deaths, and then refuse to accept estimated deaths for covid*

*Man in 2021*

*Says spanish flu numbers were exaggerated*

*Also says Covid numbers are undercounted*

Not arguing either number but it comes across a bit hypocritical doesn't it?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

What vaccine will be given to more people than Covid 19 Vaxx when this first run is complete?

All infant applied vaccines.

and no, denial from grocery stores would not be acceptable.

 

[Rambo John J]

All infant applied vaccines.

Right on
You are correct

and no, denial from grocery stores would not be acceptable.

Agreed
That possibility is a bit down the road but I suspect some areas may attempt to implement stuff like that when it becomes digital

 

[MMAHAWK]

I can't give you thoughts if you wont accurately disclose the topic. If they're saying "Get vaccinated or your get fired" that's wrong. If they say "No vaccine mo coming onto the country." That's not new mor would I have any problem with it.

This also isn't the largest mass vaccination by any objective metric.

Sporting events
Movies
Certain stores
Bank
Air travel
Etc
Are you ok with having to prove vaccination to enter or attend any of my these?

 

[member 3289]

I'm finna delete any Facebook friend who isn't vaccinated by June 1

 

[member 3289]

Next Englishman I see is getting the ole 'Glasgow treatment'

UK variant is now the dominant coronavirus strain in the US, says CDC chief

The coronavirus variant first identified in the United Kingdom is now the most common strain of coronavirus in the United States, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Wednesday.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Deleted member 1]

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[Lukewarm Carl]

Sporting events
Movies
Certain stores
Bank
Air travel
Etc
Are you ok with having to prove vaccination to enter or attend any of my these?

If those businesses require it then yes.

If the govt requires it then no.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Sporting events
Movies
Certain stores
Bank
Air travel
Etc
Are you ok with having to prove vaccination to enter or attend any of my these?

Fuck.

No.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

If those businesses require it then yes.

If the govt requires it then no.

That's discrimination.

 

[ThatOneDude]

That's discrimination.

Businesses discriminate against people who don't wear shirts or shoes all the time.

Or who are being rude to other customers or staff.

Or who are too wasted.

Etc etc etc.