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Labor theory of value looking awfully good rn.
I'm thinking we head to the $800-$900 range by Q4 which is a considerable pullback from our current $1495. From there, the new normal will likely settle around $700. To your point, the housing market is still undersupplied so demand should remain somewhat strong even as the supply increases a bit. I don't know that we'll see it fall too low - and I certainly don't think we'll ever see wood under $300 again.If you look at the amount of housing supply shortage in the United States, Even with a huge increase in new housing units we will be behind for several more years. So even with a focused effort we're several years from seeing housing prices start to moderate and even then I don't think it'll be a bust.
Because of housing supply running up the cost of existing houses you can now justify increased remodel and new build cost as well and all of their associated products.
Looking at the lag on supply chain and significantly increase demand for the moderate future timeline I think you'll see a moderating of wood prices 18 or 24 months from now but probably no bust either.
We're in a new normal for like 5 years here unless some significant supply changes happen.
Around here, most builders can't take SPFs wood because their plans typically call for SPF. The "s" (harvested south of Canada) can't be subbed because SPF is graded with a higher value, even though both grades are likely fine for most applications.Oregon is pushing out Tons of giant high quality trees that were burnt in the massive non arson fires here last year...Big Big trees...That will probably last for a few years...I-5 is a steady stream of lumber going south and north out of this area
Just throwing that into the wood discussion
You really want my 10 bucks that bad bruv?!?Where before I was reasonably confident the inflation worries were at best a temporary blip, now I'm resoundingly confident the idea is an influence campaign to control monetary policy. @Splinty @Let Love Lead let's have a friendly wager on this. The CPI rose this month by 0.8%. I will bet that by October, the average monthly increase will be no greater than 0.2% if not in the negative. If inflation is running away, this prediction should easily fail. If I lose, I'll pay each of you the difference in how much higher it is times $100, e.g. 1.0-0.2=0.8 * 100=80 or 0.5-0.2=0.3 * 100=30 etc. If I win, you both donate 0.2% of your 2020 tax return to a charitable cause of my choosing.
Most trucks appear to be headed south on I-5 for whatever that is worth, the lumber yards are full of lumber here it appears.Around here, most builders can't take SPFs wood because their plans typically call for SPF. The "s" (harvested south of Canada) can't be subbed because SPF is graded with a higher value, even though both grades are likely fine for most applications.
Although with lumber being the way it is, I'm sure many builders are deviating from their typical "No-s" restrictions.
Yeah, I'd wait on the addition.Most trucks appear to be headed south on I-5 for whatever that is worth, the lumber yards are full of lumber here it appears.
Sucks to be right in the center of all the wood and have these unreal prices.
I have plans for a tall garage with apartment on top that I am gonna hold off on for a lil bit.
Well, I don't want to contribute to anyone falling off any kind of wagon. You and I can do a simple screen name bet.@kneeblock I don’t want your money and I’m not supposed to gamble for my addiction issues, but if you’re right I will give 600 Canadian to a charity of your choice. There is a big part of me that wants to pull a Mcgregor and end up giving it to a rival charity but I’ll try not to.
I'll pay each of you the difference in how much higher it is times $100, e.g. 1.0-0.2=0.8 * 100=80 or 0.5-0.2=0.3 * 100=30 etc. If I win, you both donate 0.2% of your 2020 tax return
I don’t mind giving to charities... but am I still gambling? Lol I need to think about this.Well, I don't want to contribute to anyone falling off any kind of wagon. You and I can do a simple screen name bet.
Midweek shows momentum in lumber pricing is slowing considerably.I'm thinking we head to the $800-$900 range by Q4 which is a considerable pullback from our current $1495. From there, the new normal will likely settle around $700. To your point, the housing market is still undersupplied so demand should remain somewhat strong even as the supply increases a bit. I don't know that we'll see it fall too low - and I certainly don't think we'll ever see wood under $300 again.
Print was at $1495 Friday, but cash offers are being closed in the low $1500 range this week. That is a much smaller gap than what we've seen in the last 3 or 4 months (typically a $150+ bump from print for cash). Current futures (July) is down limit again today to $1264. That will put further downward pressure on the cash market.
Mills learned a lot during this run, and they'll keep their order files full before they flood the market with wood - even when the labor supply allows them to make as much wood as they want. Yes - I had to get that in there. ?
So you're saying there's a chance I could build another house this year?Midweek shows momentum in lumber pricing is slowing considerably.
Whether this is a reaction to lower futures or an actual demand/supply rebalance remains to be seen.
Floods in Texas slowing demand for sure.
I think wholesalers back away and buyers take their foot off the gas to see what happens. My bet is we're flat this week, and next week we'll see the first drop in lumber prices in 30 weeks.
How significant the drop and how long it lasts is the question. Still plenty of activity in the field so it sort of depends on how much material the mills want to hold on to. It's a poker game now - and each side is waiting for the other guy to blink.
Sometimes this job is fun.
So you're saying there's a chance I could build another house this year?
We're still up 350% year over year.So you're saying there's a chance I could build another house this year?
Yea but that's not 400%...sooooooooooooooooooooWe're still up 350% year over year.
You have a Stihl chain saw, right?Yea but that's not 400%...soooooooooooooooooooo
I got a quote to have a nice sized log cabin built, I laughed.
And then cried.
LOL NOYou have a Stihl chain saw, right?
Put your wife to work.
Maybe you should lower your expectations.LOL NO
I have an actual workhorse of a saw.
A 16 inch Craftsman 2 stroke. I'm over here mixing gas and slapping ass.
Maybe you should lower your expectations.
Instead of a log cabin, fire up that Craftsman and trim your bushes.