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John Lee Pettimore

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What exactly is so upsetting about double checking election results? If there was no cheating, you should be fully behind the movement so you can rub it in all of their faces.
They've been double checked by third parties, as happens with every election. The audits revealed no wrongdoing, which is backed by the dozens and dozens of failed lawsuits that the Trump campaign and its allies have spammed to no effect. All of this is right there to find in 2 seconds....... IF you don't get your entire reality and worldview from Faux Noise and garbage conspiracy memes you saw on Facebook.

See how this shit works? Their lies just poison the waters so much that they are legitimised in your eyes just by the fact that they NEVER shut up with their lying bullshit.

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Of course it is. And still people claim it has no ramifications...N0t DAnGeROus!

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Have to look at these morons larping as a paramilitary force

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And I still have to listen to posts about Hunter Bidens laptop and child porn that never showed up in actual reporting or investigations with zero acknowledgement at that it was all bullshit smoke screen.
But there again, Guiliani on board. Where's the condemnation for being manipulated?

I'd be pissed.
The irony drips from this post.
 

Speaker to Animals

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What exactly is so upsetting about double checking election results? If there was no cheating, you should be fully behind the movement so you can rub it in all of their faces.
Personally I find it upsetting because it's painful to watch money burn, and that's all the results the folks who're paying for it will see.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Personally I find it upsetting because it's painful to watch money burn, and that's all the results the folks who're paying for it will see.
No.

The other result will be the steady rise in mental retardation among the general populace, and the further destruction of American democracy. As we can see in this thread. EIGHT MONTHS later, we're STILL getting "but what's wrong with letting them check? This time they'll accept reality and take the L........ IF they did in fact lose."

And this was the strategy all along. They always knew they weren't going to find fraud. But it sure does delegitimise Biden in the eyes of millions, and makes it much easier for Republican electors (who were selected for this very purpose) to just........ refuse to certify any and every Republican election loss going forward. That's what the base is cheering for now.

That's what they're doing now, right out in the open.

That's the way that Civil War v2 starts. You cannot have a democracy with only two parties when one of them will not accept electoral defeat under any circumstances. And that's exactly what the GOP's plan is for 2024. They sure as hell aren't trying to broaden their appeal, they are doubling down on the crazy and the voter suppression. And then JorgeMasvidalsBeard will whine about how that radical socialist SJW Joe Biden destroyed American democracy.

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kaladin stormblessed

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There is a story in politics, commonly attributed to Lyndon B. Johnson, about how LBJ wanted to circulate a rumor attacking his opponent in a Texas election. Johnson is said to have wanted to spread the story that his opponent liked to have sex with barnyard animals. One of LBJ's aides said, "We can't prove he's a pig fucker."

"I know that," replied Johnson. "I just want to hear him deny it."


Because like someone arguing with you in bad faith, the audits, investigations, court cases (all of which turned up nothing and were thrown out) are not intended to actually critically evaluate the election. We already do that. We also already have multiple third parties doing that. The point of all of that is to sew doubt against the electoral process itself, not just the results of this one election.
With that in mind, it pisses a lot of people off that just to keep future political aspirations alive and galvanize a voting populace for the midterms, elected officials push false information to manipulate them. It's undemocratic anti-American propaganda for personal political party gain.


When Trump, Giuliani et al were making tons of false claims, what was the punishment for when they were proven false?
It's one thing to say "okay lets see what shakes out of these accusations". I get that. But where is the condemnation, political exile, etc for those people proven to be lying and simply launching completely false accusations for their own ends?
 

Filthy

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How does this prove one way or another the origin of the rona?
the point is that if you use "old" technology, there's no way to prove whether a virus is of natural or laboratory origin.

However, it's incredibly unlikely that a virus just happened to mutate or acquire the exact furin-cleavage site that is most susceptible in humans without jumping to intermediary species first.

No such intermediary species have been found, and since infecting humans the virus has jumped to cats and other animals - basically the opposite of how a virus gains the capability of infecting humans. The more we learn about this virus, the more evidence mounts that it's highly unlikely (closing in on irrational) that the virus originated in nature.

so it's impossible (and always has been impossible) to state NOT LAB ORIGIN.... that's why I said the paper in Feb of last year, written by Kristian Andersen at the direction of Fauci, Daszak, and the wealth managers at Wellcome was obvious bullshit. There's no way to say definitively (AFAIK) if a virus was made in the lab, unless it was a "gene-splice" or other specific manipulation that leaves 'fingerprints'.
 
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Speaker to Animals

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No.

The other result will be the steady rise in mental retardation among the general populace and the further destruction of American democracy. As we can see in this thread. EIGHT MONTHS later, we're STILL getting "but what's wrong with letting them check? This time they'll accept reality and take the L........ if they did in fact lose."

And this was the strategy all along. They always knew they weren't going to find fraud. But it sure does delegitimise Biden in the eyes of millions, and makes it much easier for Republican electors (who were selected for this very purpose) to just........ refuse to certify any and every Republican election loss doing going forward.

That's what they're doing now, right out in the open.

That's the way that Civil War v2 starts. You cannot have a democracy with only two parties when one of them will not accept electoral defeat under any circumstances. And that's exactly what the GOP's plan is for 2024. They sure as hell aren't trying to broaden their appeal, they are doubling down on the crazy and the voter suppression. And then JorgeMasvidalsBeard will whine about how that radical socialist SJW Joe Biden destroyed American democracy.

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Well aside from any reference to other posters, I am sad to largely agree.
I'm a cynical person by nature, so grain of salt, it looks from here like they've lost their sanity.
"I was winning but he cheated" is something we don't accept from children, ffs.

A man steps up and takes the L.
 

Filthy

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@Splinty

Our study reaffirms that bats, particularly those of the genus Rhinolophus, are important natural reservoirs for coronaviruses and currently harbor the closest relatives of SARS-CoV-2, although this picture may change with increased wildlife sampling.

the closest relatives are still a really really improbably HUGE distance removed from the SARS-COV2. Look at the genetic chart.


In this context it is striking that the RmYN02 virus identified here in Rhinolophus malayanus is the closest relative of SARS-CoV-2 in the long 1ab replicase gene, although the virus itself has a complex history of recombination.

Recombination is the research they were doing at the BSL2 lab in Wuhan.
 

Filthy

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And then JorgeMasvidalsBeard will whine about how that radical socialist SJW Joe Biden destroyed American democracy.

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no one will ever call Joe Biden a SJW.

no one has imprisoned more minorities and done more harm to the poor in the last 40 years than Joe Biden.

If you think BeardOfKnowledge @JorgeMasvidalsBeard thinks Pres Biden is a SJW, then this also demonstrates how little effort you put in to understanding the perspective of others,
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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no one will ever call Joe Biden a SJW.

no one has imprisoned more minorities and done more harm to the poor in the last 40 years than Joe Biden.

If you think BeardOfKnowledge @JorgeMasvidalsBeard thinks Pres Biden is a SJW, then this also demonstrates how little effort you put in to understanding the perspective of others,
I can only think of 2 other posters who's responses are as cookie cutter as his are.
 

Filthy

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Well aside from any reference to other posters, I am sad to largely agree.
I'm a cynical person by nature, so grain of salt, it looks from here like they've lost their sanity.
"I was winning but he cheated" is something we don't accept from children, ffs.

A man steps up and takes the L.
100% agree. I have nothing nice to say about how the former administration (and that wing of the RNC) is moving 'the body politic' in the months since the election. And I don't see any sign of it slowing down.

But for the last 20 years, each side has bemoaned the election rules ("we won the popular vote") and been antagonist to the elected.
So from the perspective of the MAGAstanis, this isn't anything unprecedented or new...it's just that the tables have been turned. If Biden/Harris loses the next election, I expect a hard turn by the DNC to the a Great Leap Forward.

That's the start of Civil War II, especially if you think it would follow the same arc as the first Civil War.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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no one will ever call Joe Biden a SJW.
Trump's campaign manager, Bill Sapien, last year:

“We will expose Joe Biden as a hapless tool of the extreme left.”

Vice President Mike Pence:

“Joe Biden would be nothing more than an auto pen, a Trojan horse for a radical agenda so radical, so all-encompassing that it would transform this country into something utterly unrecognizable”

President Trump:

“Biden has gone radical left”

Fox host Brian Kilmeade:

“America, you elected Bernie Sanders, you just didn’t know it”


Meanwhile - in reality - Joe Biden sits comfortably in the Conservative Party of just about every other Western nation.

But then, the American right and reality are not on speaking terms with each other at this point.

no one has imprisoned more minorities and done more harm to the poor in the last 40 years than Joe Biden.
Maybe you should tell that to America's first black President, who handpicked Biden to be his right hand man and replacement in the event of assassination?

And who formed a closer and more genuine personal friendship than any President and VP in the last several decades?

Pretty good trick for the single biggest scourge of African-Americans in the last half century to pull off. He must be pretty sharp, this Biden guy.

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Greenbean

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There is a story in politics, commonly attributed to Lyndon B. Johnson, about how LBJ wanted to circulate a rumor attacking his opponent in a Texas election. Johnson is said to have wanted to spread the story that his opponent liked to have sex with barnyard animals. One of LBJ's aides said, "We can't prove he's a pig fucker."

"I know that," replied Johnson. "I just want to hear him deny it."


Because like someone arguing with you in bad faith, the audits, investigations, court cases (all of which turned up nothing and were thrown out) are not intended to actually critically evaluate the election. We already do that. We also already have multiple third parties doing that. The point of all of that is to sew doubt against the electoral process itself, not just the results of this one election.
With that in mind, it pisses a lot of people off that just to keep future political aspirations alive and galvanize a voting populace for the midterms, elected officials push false information to manipulate them. It's undemocratic anti-American propaganda for personal political party gain.


When Trump, Giuliani et al were making tons of false claims, what was the punishment for when they were proven false?
It's one thing to say "okay lets see what shakes out of these accusations". I get that. But where is the condemnation, political exile, etc for those people proven to be lying and simply launching completely false accusations for their own ends?
Its disgusting and incredibly unpatriotic
Are you two trolling me right now? This is all well and good when we're claiming gamesmanship, but at least you can be consistent and call it out for what it is when the Dems are making false claims about trump being a Russian agent. For 4 years it was the mainstream narrative. Please don't dismiss it as whataboutism.

Forgive me if I'm incorrect because I haven't followed your posts religiously, but don't most democrats regard trump as a buffoon? Surely he's no student of political science. Way too inept to put together a strategy like what you're describing.

Lastly there's the matter of safeguards in place to prevent election fraud. Yes, but if memory serves, there were some circumstances that changed this. Unless I'm wrong. Happy to be corrected if so.
 

Filthy

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Maybe you should tell that to America's first black President, who handpicked Biden to be his right hand man and replacement in the event of assassination?

And who formed a closer and more genuine personal friendship than any President and VP in the last several decades?

Pretty good trick for the single biggest scourge of African-Americans in the last half century to pull off. He must be pretty sharp, this Biden guy.

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read this part again and tell me that the Democrats aren't following a cult of personality.

Obama who prosecuted more extrajudicial killings than any POTUS in history?
1994 Biden Crime Act. How did that work out for African Americans?

it's a cult of personality because the deeds are indefensible.