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General Remains of 215 children found at former Catholic residential school for natives in Canada
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Well. They are shitty.
Please tone down your anti-Catholic rhetoric.
So,
@ThatOneDude, were you touched?
@ThatOneDude, were you touched?
This isn't something to joke about.
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By whom?So,
Church people when you were a young boy.
I do wonder if people realize they're window dressing at civil war when they make these tweets.
What do you mean? Is the sense of unrest right now making you think that's where this is heading? Or are you characterizing the past that way?
Well, when people want "accountability" for attrocities from people who by in large part weren't alive when it happened, I don't really understand what else that could mean. Some indian organizations are vocal about wanting all of their land back, other homes are more mealy mouthed about what reconciliation is but that seems to be the logical conclusion.
Regarding the current unrest, I believe 6 churches have been burned to the ground this week. As a Catholic who's family moved here post World War II, I have more than a little difficulty having this laid at my feet.
I've made some calls, don't worry, we are going to lay this at
@Freeloading Rusty's feet.
I think some of the people involved are still alive. But I can understand how you feel.
Do you still want to be associated with the catholic church in Canada given what's being uncovered?
How would you feel if the end result was the Catholic Church no longer being recognized in Canada in some way? Like, do they pay taxes there? Maybe they have to start, and their tax goes to the natives in some way?
I'm not the person you're directing the question to, but I grew up in the Catholic church in Australia and there's a similar situation there, except it's just the standard molestation and not hundreds and hundreds of dead kids.
I was only ever there because of family /cultural obligation, and I pretty much checked out at about age 10, when I did my confirmation and the 140 year old priest sat me down and tried to talk me out of being lefthanded because God doesn't like people being lefthanded.
Since then, as far as I'm concerned the Catholic Church is an obsolete replicable and criminal organization that needs to be mocked, exposed and shamed out of society. It preaches its own moral authority while engaging in a generations-long, international effort to protect and shelter pedophiles within its organisation and allow them to continue molesting kids rather than be exposed and reflect poorly on the church. For that alone, there is no excuse, no justification. It needs to be treated as what it is - as any organisation with its record of abuse and cover up should be.
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I'm not trying to be flippant, but you wouldn't ask someone from another religion to renounce it because of atrocities of the past.
That would be unjust to those paying for something they weren't involved in. It would also suggest that this is really about money.
No you haven’t.
But at least now we understand your need to protect the catholic church.
Sir, good try. Why would I protect the government or church that did these terrible things?
We get it. Shame can be a powerful emotion.
What does the Catholic Church do in modern society that overshadows the centuries of violence and bloodshed and the generations (and continuing) of knowingly and deliberately covering for and enabling pedophile sex predators?
The betrayal of public trust is so massive, so widespread, so clear, so pervasive and so overwhelming that there is no possible excuse or justification.
Well, why should they have ever been tax-exempt, to start with?
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The idea that all of this was unknown and is just being discovered right now is extremely disingenuous. They know exactly where the graves are, many of them are communal catholic gravesites with adults as well as children. Survivors and other natives have been talking about this for decades. It’s why they find them so easily, they know exactly where to use the radar. If any Canadian didn’t realize we have a colonial past and if any Christian didn’t realize the church has been involved in nasty shit historically then I implore them to please, for the love of Thor, read a book.
Why should the government punish the church (taxing them) for doing what the government wanted?
There was already a class action lawsuit for survivors and their descendants against the federal government, although Trudeau is fighting the ruling in court because he doesn’t want to pay everyone the same amount.