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Splinty

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Any studies you know of involving the Moderna vaccine?

Nothing with patient centered outcomes just yet as far as delta variant.
Study underway.
Moderna released a non patient centered outcomes with focus on antibodies and it is likely still very effective...to be seen the clinical significance...

 
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You guys really never took a basic stats class, have you? This is literally freshman undergrad analysis.

You take a 90% of the population and vaccinate. You take 10% that aren't.
Let's take your Israeli population of 9million people.

That means the population is roughly 8 million vaccinated and 1 million unvaccinated.

You would need 8 times the number of cases in the vaccinated population to have the same case rate as the unvaccinated population.

Same with hospitalization. If 8 million people represent the same number of hospitalizations (your data isn't sourced anyway since its a screenshot and its not on the dashboard referenced, I looked) as 1 million, the 1 million is overrepresented by a factor of EIGHT.
Lulz
 

Rambo John J

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You guys really never took a basic stats class, have you? This is literally freshman undergrad analysis.

You take a 90% of the population and vaccinate. You take 10% that aren't.
Let's take your Israeli population of 9million people.

That means the population is roughly 8 million vaccinated and 1 million unvaccinated.

You would need 8 times the number of cases in the vaccinated population to have the same case rate as the unvaccinated population.

Same with hospitalization. If 8 million people represent the same number of hospitalizations (your data isn't sourced anyway since its a screenshot and its not on the dashboard referenced, I looked) as 1 million, the 1 million is overrepresented by a factor of EIGHT.
hi splinty

have a nice day
 

Rambo John J

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Filthy

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did you guys see that the company that "owns" the patent on the effectively-free drug Ivermectin, which if approved for use would force Pzifer and Moderna to go through clinical trials of their vaccine, has managed to come up with a highly-lucrative and patentable oral tablet for treating COVID that is totally not IVM?

also, a Japanese company (IVM was discovered in Japan by a Japanese scientist) has also come up with a not-IVM oral COVID treatment.

Follow the Science.
but Follow the Money, too.
 

Filthy

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Idiocracy screenshot. Incredible.

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

― H.L. Mencken
 

Splinty

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did you guys see that the company that "owns" the patent on the effectively-free drug Ivermectin, which if approved for use would force Pzifer and Moderna to go through clinical trials of their vaccine, has managed to come up with a highly-lucrative and patentable oral tablet for treating COVID that is totally not IVM?

also, a Japanese company (IVM was discovered in Japan by a Japanese scientist) has also come up with a not-IVM oral COVID treatment.

Follow the Science.
but Follow the Money, too.

I've been supporting, and still do, ivermectin as a possible treatment for a year on here. I agree. Use it since the risks are low. But the data in randomized controlled trials is weak let alone a paucity of peer reviewed data. Population selection is critical to the outcomes. Adjuncts like fluvoxamine risk serious side effects with the patients most likely to benefit.


Targeted therapies will almost assuredly be more expensive and more effective than these current generic options.

Of course I'm all for the use of everything since it's more tools and vaccine creation will take time for the world anyways, but I don't think this is a case of this or that. Companies have no reason to push the spinup of ivermectin if they aren't already manufacturing it and there are not massive purchase orders from state entities anywhere in the world asking the generic manufacturers to ramp up production.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Freeloading Rusty

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Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial drop in intelligence
The findings suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 can produce substantial reductions in cognitive ability, especially among those with more severe illness.
 

Rambo John J

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did you guys see that the company that "owns" the patent on the effectively-free drug Ivermectin, which if approved for use would force Pzifer and Moderna to go through clinical trials of their vaccine, has managed to come up with a highly-lucrative and patentable oral tablet for treating COVID that is totally not IVM?

also, a Japanese company (IVM was discovered in Japan by a Japanese scientist) has also come up with a not-IVM oral COVID treatment.

Follow the Science.
but Follow the Money, too.
Makes sense(cents)
 

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Freeloading Rusty

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Arkansas GOP governor who is holding town halls to urge vaccinations said people he meets have called the shot a 'bioweapon' and talked about 'mind control'
  • Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson is combatting misinformation and "myths" about the COVID-19 vaccines.
  • Hutchinson is traveling around the state to encourage residents to get vaccinated.
  • Arkansas has one of the lowest vaccinations rates and is also seeing a spike in COVID-19 cases.
 

Splinty

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Arkansas GOP governor who is holding town halls to urge vaccinations said people he meets have called the shot a 'bioweapon' and talked about 'mind control'
  • Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson is combatting misinformation and "myths" about the COVID-19 vaccines.
  • Hutchinson is traveling around the state to encourage residents to get vaccinated.
  • Arkansas has one of the lowest vaccinations rates and is also seeing a spike in COVID-19 cases.

It's interesting that 2 days ago this was the sudden shift for many that had hemmed and hawed now promoting vaccination


View: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdWoPGrK/
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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It's interesting that 2 days ago this was the sudden shift for many that had hemmed and hawed now promoting vaccination


View: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdWoPGrK/
Its the logical conclusion of the disaster that's been created by official messaging. Rational questions were met with disdain and ridicule which drives those moderate people off to mind control land as that's the only place who takes them seriously. Now there's a dire situation. It's very similar with what happened with voter fraud in the 2020 election.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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It’s official, 30% of the overall population is retarded.

.. But in all seriousness, does America lead the world in conspiratards?

Even the old guy with dementia knows the rest of the world is pointing and laughing.