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Filthy

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my body quite obviously prefers to not wear one and breathe free of obstruction

it's not obvious, why is a mask an obstruction to breathing?
Does it change the amount of oxygen getting in to your bloodstream, or the amount of CO2 being released?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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nor is it purely anecdotal to note that my experience aligns with the preponderance of research.
Well, see I can go a couple ways with this. The preponderance doesn't really support your claims, unless we're talking about N95 masks which we all know the general public is not using. There's also that a scientific experiment should have a control over potential outside influences on outcomes. Virtually none of the mask studies you (or anyone) have presented have bothered to do that. There's also that we know masks are significantly less effective than other things you were also doing, but you blow by those because "muh masks".

I'll tell you what, rank these things in terms of effectiveness of preventing disease transmission.

1, Wearing a mask
2, Staying 6 feet or farther from others at all times.
3, Not leaving your house at all.
 

Rambo John J

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it's not obvious, why is a mask an obstruction to breathing?
Does it change the amount of oxygen getting in to your bloodstream, or the amount of CO2 being released?
It messes with 4 of my five senses, touch, taste, smell, sight.

The 5 Senses are amazing things, I do not like to restrict them.
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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Well, see I can go a couple ways with this. The preponderance doesn't really support your claims, unless we're talking about N95 masks which we all know the general public is not using. There's also that a scientific experiment should have a control over potential outside influences on outcomes. Virtually none of the mask studies you (or anyone) have presented have bothered to do that. There's also that we know masks are significantly less effective than other things you were also doing, but you blow by those because "muh masks".
it does support my claim that wearing masks is more effective than not wearing masks, the only thing in dispute is the degree to which it does that as a sole contributor...that's why it's so hard to do a definitive, all-encompassing study of 'masks' for 'disease'.

I'll tell you what, rank these things in terms of effectiveness of preventing disease transmission.

1, Wearing a mask
2, Staying 6 feet or farther from others at all times.
3, Not leaving your house at all.
does not leaving your house involve living with people who do?
What disease are we talking about? Cloth masks work better against virus that persist on surfaces...and 6' isn't really meaningful compared to indoors/outdoors and volume/cycle rate of the air for SARS-COV2
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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It messes with 4 of my five senses, touch, taste, smell, sight.

The 5 Senses are amazing things, I do not like to restrict them.
it doesn't "mess" with any of those things, you just haven't given your body a chance to do its thing.

your adaptability is a muscle that must be exercised.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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it does support my claim that wearing masks is more effective than not wearing masks, the only thing in dispute is the degree to which it does that as a sole contributor...that's why it's so hard to do a definitive, all-encompassing study of 'masks' for 'disease'.
But here's what you said. You'll notice that there's no mention of anything aside from mask wearing keeping you safe:

the masks don't bother me at all, and not getting a cold or flu for the past 1.5 yrs has been incredible.
does not leaving your house involve living with people who do?
What disease are we talking about? Cloth masks work better against virus that persist on surfaces...and 6' isn't really meaningful compared to indoors/outdoors and volume/cycle rate of the air for SARS-COV2
The fact that you're refusing to answer speaks volumes about your panacea.
 

Rambo John J

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it doesn't "mess" with any of those things, you just haven't given your body a chance to do its thing.

your adaptability is a muscle that must be exercised.
hilarious
that is the funniest and worst argument for a mask yet
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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But here's what you said. You'll notice that there's no mention of anything aside from mask wearing keeping you safe:





The fact that you're refusing to answer speaks volumes about your panacea.
Don't try to paint that at as a lie by omission. We are specifically talking about masks and whether or not I'll keep wearing it through cold/flu season.

those are straightforward questions and I'll rank it. Worried you won't be able to scoot the goalposts around after I answer?
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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hilarious
that is the funniest and worst argument for a mask yet
OK, snowflake.

sorry you can't be uncomfortable.

EDIT - that's also not an argument for wearing a mask. the argument for wearing the mask is that it reduces the spread of communicable diseases. you're the one putting out the Snowflake Logic as if it trumps that simple reason.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Don't try to paint that at as a lie by omission.
You went from "Masks keep me safe!" to "Well, masks keep me more safe than no masks." if you feel that's a lie by omission that's up to you. I just figured it was moving the goalposts which is kind of your thing.

those are straightforward questions and I'll rank it. Worried you won't be able to scoot the goalposts around after I answer?
I have no reason to. I already know what the order is going to be unless you're delusional, or a bold face liar.
 

Rambo John J

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OK, snowflake.

sorry you can't be uncomfortable.

EDIT - that's also not an argument for wearing a mask. the argument for wearing the mask is that it reduces the spread of communicable diseases. you're the one putting out the Snowflake Logic as if it trumps that simple reason.
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MMAHAWK

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Feb 5, 2015
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it doesn't "mess" with any of those things, you just haven't given your body a chance to do its thing.

your adaptability is a muscle that must be exercised.
I almost wanna think you’re trolling
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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You went from "Masks keep me safe!" to "Well, masks keep me more safe than no masks." if you feel that's a lie by omission that's up to you. I just figured it was moving the goalposts which is kind of your thing.
i went from masks keep me safe from col/flu to masks keep me safe from cold/flu
you keep trying to blur the line.

I have no reason to. I already know what the order is going to be unless you're delusional, or a bold face liar.
so....SARS-COV2 and influenza and rhinovirus and norovirus all have the safe efficacy when wearing masks relative to being 6' apart or staying home?

and whether you live with people who go out or not doesn't change it's efficacy relative to wearing a mask or staying 6' apart - for all of those viral infections...right?