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MMAHAWK

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Doesn't the CDC's guidance just apply to indoor masking and in areas with high transmission rates?

Poor ventilation and lack of distance make indoor social distancing a difficult and less effective thing.

But yeah, you're outdoors? Distanced? Fuck a mask. But the CDC didn't say to wear one then.


Unfortunately A huge portion of the country is low in vaccinations and high on Coronavirus transmission

Do you think punishing the vaccinated will help get others vaccinated? Talked to multiple people this week that feel betrayed and regret getting the shot. Just wait for the booster and see what these reckless policies lead to.

only in California
Myself a vaccinated person was just yelled at by an unvaccinated woman for not having my mask on in a gym with 4 people in it.
 
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Do you think punishing the vaccinated will help get others vaccinated? Talked to multiple people this week that feel betrayed and regret getting the shot. Just wait for the booster and see what these reckless policies lead to.

The messaging sucks but that's about it.

Myself a vaccinated person was just yelled at by an unvaccinated woman for not having my mask on in a gym with 4 people in it.
Es normal. Unvaccinated people are more likely to be antisocial weirdos*


*This is a joke losers.
 
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So 40% are unvaccinated. And unvaccinated only make up 10% of the population and shrinking. So the unvaccinated ICU patients are four-fold over representation in critically ill patients (this is not totally accurate because I'm assuming even exposure between groups and I find that hard to believe once you're at that high level of vaccination)

Good news! Vaccines continue to lower your chance of getting symptomatic illness, hospitalized, or admitted to the ICU.
 

sparkuri

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So 40% are unvaccinated. And unvaccinated only make up 10% of the population and shrinking. So the unvaccinated ICU patients are four-fold over representation in critically ill patients (this is not totally accurate because I'm assuming even exposure between groups and I find that hard to believe once you're at that high level of vaccination)

Good news! Vaccines continue to lower your chance of getting symptomatic illness, hospitalized, or admitted to the ICU.
I think you're missing the point.
No, you are blatantly missing the point.

With a 99% survival rate, you WANT everyone to have natural herd immunity, which occurs with treatment, not experimental vaccines DURING a pandemic, which encourage unnatural variants.

Do you understand this?
 

Rambo John J

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Well, Malone didn't invent the mRNA vaccine, so... I didn't listen to what he said.
Regardless of what he didn't or didn't invent, he knows the failings of these vaccines and the history of the trials.
He recognizes the patterns and understands the science better than most of the mouthpieces we are getting our information from.

I hope he is wrong, I think he hopes he is wrong.

I understand your post is a joke(i hope), but I think his information and his opinion is worth giving a chance.

I recommend everyone give it a listen and keep it in mind as this story develops.
 
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With a 99% survival rate, you WANT everyone to have natural herd immunity, which occurs with treatment, not experimental vaccines DURING a pandemic,

I'm not willing to kill 3 million Americans for your goal. It works and it's unnecessary.




not experimental vaccines DURING a pandemic, which encourage unnatural variants.

All predominant variants developed in populations that were not vaccinated. To date it is not vaccinated evolutionary pressures that have created the most transmissible variants, despite the conflation of nasal viral load with such.
 

FINGERS

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Regardless of what he didn't or didn't invent, he knows the failings of these vaccines and the history of the trials.
He recognizes the patterns and understands the science better than most of the mouthpieces we are getting our information from.

I hope he is wrong, I think he hopes he is wrong.

I understand your post is a joke(i hope), but I think his information and his opinion is worth giving a chance.

I recommend everyone give it a listen and keep it in mind as this story develops.

A colleague of my wife has the covid right now. She was an anti vaxxer.

She is obese. She is suffering so bad atm she is touch and go whether to be hospitalised.

She's only 6 days in.

I've had the double jab. We think we got it again about 3 weeks ago. We have a young family and are used to being tired but we had 2 days where we literally had to sleep for a couple of hours in the day.

We put it down to the children. But I think we got a second dose as it was floating around the school.

The vaccines work mate.
 

Rambo John J

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A colleague of my wife has the covid right now. She was an anti vaxxer.

She is obese. She is suffering so bad atm she is touch and go whether to be hospitalised.

She's only 6 days in.

I've had the double jab. We think we got it again about 3 weeks ago. We have a young family and are used to being tired but we had 2 days where we literally had to sleep for a couple of hours in the day.

We put it down to the children. But I think we got a second dose as it was floating around the school.

The vaccines work mate.
If you watch the 10 minute video
then we have something to talk about.

I don't doubt your experience or that it works for some short term.

Being open to information never hurt anybody, the video isn't claiming anything conclusive...it merely suggests a pattern and further research...Science is supposed to hold up to discussion and ongoing testing.

Enjoy Mate
 

Wintermute

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Regardless of what he didn't or didn't invent, he knows the failings of these vaccines and the history of the trials.
He recognizes the patterns and understands the science better than most of the mouthpieces we are getting our information from.

I hope he is wrong, I think he hopes he is wrong.

I understand your post is a joke(i hope), but I think his information and his opinion is worth giving a chance.

I recommend everyone give it a listen and keep it in mind as this story develops.
My comment isn't a joke- he's on the show representing as an expert that invented the mRNA vaccine. He didn't, which means we're starting off with misinformation.
 

Rambo John J

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My comment isn't a joke- he's on the show representing as an expert that invented the mRNA vaccine. He didn't, which means we're starting off with misinformation.
Ok
Sorry to hear that

He is just covering and discussing things that are on MSM, Recent Health Recommendations by Health Agencies, and very recent studies regarding the vaccinated's covid immunity and vulnerability to new strains. Any misinformation in the video I posted you will also find on your "reliable" sources also.
 
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TheFifthScallop

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Here’s an email from my employer this morning:


Good Morning Everyone,



With the increase in COVID-19 cases and the guidance provided by Multnomah County, we are making a change to our mask policy. This new policy will go into effect starting tomorrow, Thursday 7/29/21 and will be reviewed in 3 weeks.



Starting Thursday 7/29/2021 the following will apply to all employees:



All employees must wear a mask at all times with the following exception:

  • Employees at the main Jacobs Heating office location may remove their masks while at their workstation if they provide us with proof of COVID-19 vaccination and are fully vaccinated.


Masks or buffs are allowed, face shields are no longer allowed.



All field employees visiting the office are still required to wear a mask at all times while at the office location regardless of vaccination status.



In addition, all visitors must wear a mask at all times.



Each manager will be presented with a list of employees in their departments that are fully vaccinated, so they can enforce this new policy. If an employee is concerned about another employee not complying with this policy, they are to report it to their manager, who will take appropriate action. Deciding to get vaccinated is an individual decision, there might be employees who would prefer to continue wearing a face covering even if they are fully vaccinated. We will not tolerate any disrespectful behavior regarding this policy change.



In addition, we wanted to remind everyone that we are offering 4 hours of paid time per COVID-19 vaccine. Multnomah County is also offering $150 per individual to get vaccinated and $50 for any vaccinated individual who brings in someone else to receive the vaccine. You can find out more here - Upcoming COVID-19 Vaccination Clinics



Thank you for your understanding and compliance with this new policy. We hope this is a temporary measure to help curb the ongoing transmission of the virus and to keep our employees and their families safe.



Regards,

So because we are averaging 56 cases per week for a population of 735,334, they are recommending wearing masks indoors again, my employer is requiring it. I’m no math wizard, but isn’t that only ~0.00008% of the population? In a county where a majority are vaccinated. What the fuck are we doing here? My employer can suck my wiener. Good thing I’m taking off next week to hang out with my dog while the wife is out of town.
 

sparkuri

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I'm not willing to kill 3 million Americans for your goal. It works and it's unnecessary.
That's arguably what you're doing right now.
66% of deaths came over the age of 70 with 6-10 underlying co-morbidities and denial of effective treatment or MATH protocol.
Another 25% with the same treatment(go home, pray, ventilators and oxygen)for age60 and above.
That was a sample group of 5 MILLION.
Yet Remdesevir was given emergency use and HCQ+z-pack or Ivermectin+doxycycline wasn't.
That's 90% of deaths.

So where the hell do you get this "3 million" number, for a pandemic that had peaked, even w/o proper treatment?
If the government pharmakia sorcerists would've let mankind deal with the bioweapon THEY created, freedom-orientated citizens would've kicked this in the ass a year ago and we'd be dealing with Covid-41. But what happened?
Censorship, and big sorcery banned the accounts of thousands of dr.'s and scientists, and hundreds of thousands of citizens for mentioning the words.


All predominant variants developed in populations that were not vaccinated. To date it is not vaccinated evolutionary pressures that have created the most transmissible variants, despite the conflation of nasal viral load with such.
This is a COMPLETE fabrication.
The "delta variant" was called the Indian variant, no?
Right after India CRUSHED Sars-Cov-2 with Ivermectin bringing their cases to virtually zero, then vaccines were introduced.
 

Rambo John J

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So because we are averaging 56 cases per week for a population of 735,334, they are recommending wearing masks indoors again, my employer is requiring it. I’m no math wizard, but isn’t that only ~0.00008% of the population? In a county where a majority are vaccinated.
Sounds about right
 
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The "delta variant" was called the Indian variant, no?
Right after India CRUSHED Sars-Cov-2 with Ivermectin bringing their cases to virtually zero, then vaccines were introduced.
Delta variant showed up in 2020 before India was vaccinating.
India started Ivermectin early and still cases spiked after use peaking at the beginning of May.
The India Delta strain being their predominant strain has not stopped their increased vaccination use from decreasing cases and hospitalizations.
Vaccines remain effective against the delta variant, just not as effective as the original.
 

sparkuri

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Let's squash all this and get @Splinty a one-on-one with Dr.Pierre Kory, or the thousands of other virologists & epidemiologists that disagree with him.
 
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Ok, come on everyone. That was funny.
I'm just here for the bad math and memes.
Lest sparkuri @sparkuri gets it wrong since he has invoked the biggest proponent of ivermectin...

I've been supporting, and still do, ivermectin as a possible treatment for a year on here. I agree. Use it since the risks are low. But the data in randomized controlled trials is weak let alone a paucity of peer reviewed data. Population selection is critical to the outcomes. Adjuncts like fluvoxamine risk serious side effects with the patients most likely to benefit.


Targeted therapies will almost assuredly be more expensive and more effective than these current generic options.

Of course I'm all for the use of everything since it's more tools and vaccine creation will take time for the world anyways, but I don't think this is a case of this or that. Companies have no reason to push the spinup of ivermectin if they aren't already manufacturing it and there are not massive purchase orders from state entities anywhere in the world asking the generic manufacturers to ramp up production.
Ivermectin is mostly safe with weak data to support.
Vaccines are also very effective.