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Hauler

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Forgive me i
That reminds me. When Joe was reading off the teleprompter yesterday I think he misread the "we will not forget" line and said "We will not forgive" instead.

"We will not forgive" is an odd thing to say in that situation IMO. I doubt his handlers had that in there.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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John Lee Pettimore @John Lee Pettimore - Hauler @Hauler isnt a trump guy

hes not a biden guy either. and unfortunately, hes not a bernie guy

but i almost wrote this to ya a month or so back. hauler isnt a trump guy. or girl. or them. i dont want to assume his gender. or their gender

fuck it. i quit
Maybe he is. If that's the case, then fair enough, I'll hold my hand up to that.

He's going pretty hard on the whole "Biden is unfit for office" thing, though.

So far as I can see it, there's pretty much not a single thing you can complain about with Biden, that the Trump admin wasn't far, FAR worse for.

Biden's so cognitively impaired due to age, to the extent that he's unfit for office? Fine, but a year ago he beat Trump one on one in the debates so bad that Trump cried and bitched out of even showing up for one of them. When's the last time that happened?

You don't like Kamala the ambitionbot? Meet pent-up medieval fuckwit Mike Pence, who loathes Trump on every level but still became his lackey.

You're excited by Hunter Biden stories, and how corrupt his existence reveals Joe to be? Have you heard of Jared Kushner?

And so on, and so on. Nobody likes Biden, but if you're gonna complain about him, then at least be consistent about it.

All these guys crying about how the POTUS is supposed to be obviously intelligent, competent, well-spoken, socially adept, funny, likeable etc...... well, they all hated the shit out of Obama anyway, so there you go.

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Hauler

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Could you please point me to a post of yours where you called him unfit for office?

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He was never "unfit" for office. It's not like he got stuck in a bathtub or anything. At that level, the mind is more important than physical attributes anyway.

The Trumpster wasn't exactly a glowing example of how we want a president to behave, but he was of sound mind and body.

I wouldn't leave Biden alone in my house because I have a gas stove.
 

Hauler

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rump cried and bitched out of even showing up for one of them
Was that the one where they changed the subject away from foreign policy and Trump had a conniption about it? I honestly don't remember.

But if so, given how Biden's administration has done thus far with foreign affairs it makes that change...interesting.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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He was never "unfit" for office. It's not like he got stuck in a bathtub or anything. At that level, the mind is more important than physical attributes anyway.

The Trumpster wasn't exactly a glowing example of how we want a president to behave, but he was of sound mind and body.

I wouldn't leave Biden alone in my house because I have a gas stove.
Trump's mind was fit for office how, exactly?

He knew absolutely nothing about the world or about American history.

He had no coherent political or governing philosophy or ideology.

He literally had the attention span of a child, to the point where he didn't read the President's Daily Brief (Prince Jared did, though) and his underlings acknowledged that when giving him briefing materials, there was no point in anything more than a page because he would never read it. They also took care to include as many colourful maps and charts as possible, and to put his name in there as much as possible so he would be less likely to lose interest. Like a literal child.

He had absolutely no idea how the government works, or what the President's role, duties and powers are and are not.

And that's not even mentioning the open corruption, which was to levels absolutely unheard of in any other administration in your lifetime.

Unfit for office on every level. Simple as that. Biden shouldn't be the President either, but to pretend he's worse is ridiculous.

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Hauler

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Trump's mind was fit for office how, exactly?

He knew absolutely nothing about the world or about American history.

He had no coherent political or governing philosophy or ideology.

He literally had the attention span of a child, to the point where he didn't read the President's Daily Brief (Prince Jared did, though) and his underlings acknowledged that when giving him briefing materials, there was no point in anything more than a page because he would never read it. They also took care to include as many colourful maps and charts as possible, and to put his name in there as much as possible so he would be less likely to lose interest. Like a literal child.

And that's not even mentioning the open corruption, which was to levels absolutely unheard of in any other administration in your lifetime.

Unfit for office on every level. Simple as that. Biden shouldn't be the President either, but to pretend he's worse is ridiculous.

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Agree to disagree.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Maybe he is. If that's the case, then fair enough, I'll hold my hand up to that.

He's going pretty hard on the whole "Biden is unfit for office" thing, though.

So far as I can see it, there's pretty much not a single thing you can complain about with Biden, that the Trump admin wasn't far, FAR worse for.

Biden's so cognitively impaired due to age, to the extent that he's unfit for office? Fine, but a year ago he beat Trump one on one in the debates so bad that Trump cried and bitched out of even showing up for one of them. When's the last time that happened?

You don't like Kamala the ambitionbot? Meet pent-up medieval fuckwit Mike Pence, who loathes Trump on every level but still became his lackey.

You're excited by Hunter Biden stories, and how corrupt his existence reveals Joe to be? Have you heard of Jared Kushner?

And so on, and so on. Nobody likes Biden, but if you're gonna complain about him, then at least be consistent about it.

All these guys crying about how the POTUS is supposed to be obviously intelligent, competent, well-spoken, socially adept, funny, likeable etc...... well, they all hated the shit out of Obama anyway, so there you go.

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i totally hear ya in tone. its annoying that some people condemn someone on "the other side" and are blind to the same thing happening on their own side

but we should be able to discuss biden independently of trump imo
 

Hauler

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What in that post is factually inaccurate, though?
The corruption comment is hyperbole.

Not that it wasn't there.
But in politics - it's always there.

The fact you know about it means he wasn't as good at it as more seasoned politicians.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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The corruption comment is hyperbole.

Not that it wasn't there.
But in politics - it's always there.

The fact you know about it means he wasn't as good at it as more seasoned politicians.
It certainly is not hyperbole. Have you even been paying attention? Honestly man, it's impossible to take you seriously when you just breezily dismiss objective simply because it doesn't fit your preferred worldview. There is simply absolutely no case to be made that Trump and Obama’s personal and political corruption were anything close to being on the same level. No case at all. It is simply not reality.

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Hauler

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It certainly is not hyperbole. Have you even been paying attention? Honestly man, it's impossible to take you seriously when you just breezily dismiss objective simply because it doesn't fit your preferred worldview. There is simply absolutely no case to be made that Trump and Obama’s personal and political corruption were anything close to being on the same level. No case at all. It is simply not reality.

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Obama came from Chicago, bruh.

You don't survive in that swamp without learning how to swim in the shit.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Obama came from Chicago, bruh.

You don't survive in that swamp without learning how to swim in the shit.
How many of his family members had offices in Obama’s West Wing?

Give us one name of any Obama administration official who failed his security vetting and then was given Oval Office access anyway.

That's a start. Name, please?

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kaladin stormblessed

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Trumps corruption was stupidly overt

Obama was just way more slick. he comes off as this good guy. so he's able to become a multi-millionaire (billionaire?) during/after his presidency

i'd probably get along with Obama hanging out, but i wouldnt hang out. bc he is disgusting. completely bought out by his donors
 

Hauler

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How many of his family members had offices in Obama’s West Wing?

Give us one name of any Obama administration official who failed his security vetting and then was given Oval Office access anyway.

That's a start. Name, please?

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Obama net worth: $70 million
And that's just what we know about.

There's a line about spotting corruption by having a politician being worth way more leaving office than they were going in.

Yeah, yeah. He wrote a book.
Or maybe he sold some paintings?

And I wasn't even talking about Obama anyway. You brought that up. I said Trump was corrupt. It's my belief that everyone in DC is.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Trumps corruption was stupidly overt

Obama was just way more slick. he comes off as this good guy. so he's able to become a multi-millionaire (billionaire?) during/after his presidency

i'd probably get along with Obama hanging out, but i wouldnt hang out. bc he is disgusting. completely bought out by his donors
It's pretty tough to imagine a situation where the President of the United States couldn't turn himself into a multimillionaire within a year of leaving office using completely legitimate, above the table means.

I mean, the cash me outside chick is worth how many million? And Obama can't earn multi millionaire status through book advances alone? C'mon now. Do you even WANT a situation where the President can't comfortably support himself financially after leaving office? I don't see how that leads to less corruption.

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kaladin stormblessed

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It's pretty tough to imagine a situation where the President of the United States couldn't turn himself into a multimillionaire within a year of leaving office using completely legitimate, above the table means.

I mean, the cash me outside chick is worth how many million? And Obama can't earn multi millionaire status through book advances alone? C'mon now. Do you even WANT a situation where the President can't comfortably support himself financially after leaving office? I don't see how that leads to less corruption.

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politicians are supposed to be servants. i would go as far as to say that they should be capped off at the more than generous life-time salary that they get after they retire

in terms of obama's success, what im saying is that he is part of the corrupt insiders that, along with the Fox, CNN, and MSNBC's of the world, paint a lie. so people like my mom have no idea that Obama, HIllary, and BIden are bought out by wallstreet
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Obama net worth: $70 million
And that's just what we know about.

There's a line about spotting corruption by having a politician being worth way more leaving office than they were going in.

Yeah, yeah. He wrote a book.
Or maybe he sold some paintings?

And I wasn't even talking about Obama anyway. You brought that up. I said Trump was corrupt. It's my belief that everyone in DC is.
We don't know what any celebrity is worth. They don't call up their accountant and tell them to hand all paperwork concerning their stocks, real estate, other investments and all miscellaneous earnings over to celebritynetworth.com.

You can chant "everyone's the same, they're all as bad as each other" over and over and over till you pass out. That doesn't make it soon reality.

Can you come up with the name of any man in any administration except Trump's, who failed his security clearance vetting and had the President override that and give him a West Wing office and walk-in Oval Office access anyway? That would be a good start when illustrating that Trump wasn't any more corrupt than the average President.

But of course, you can't do that. What a surprise! Oh well. Don't worry. Just post a drunk emoticon on this, then quote it and put a stupid gif of that guy tweaking his nipples. That's just as good as being able to answer the question and back your empty bullshit up with anything other than more empty bullshit!



(Side note - that's from an old Apple ad, and the kid works at Facebook now.)

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John Lee Pettimore

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politicians are supposed to be servants. i would go as far as to say that they should be capped off at the more than generous life-time salary that they get after they retire

in terms of obama's success, what im saying is that he is part of the corrupt insiders that, along with the Fox, CNN, and MSNBC's of the world, paint a lie. so people like my mom have no idea that Obama, HIllary, and BIden are bought out by wallstreet
Should they be forbidden from writing a book or earning money?

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Hauler

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Don't worry. Just post a drunk emoticon on this, then quote it and put a stupid gif of that guy tweaking his nipples.



(Side note - that's from an old Apple ad, and the kid works at Facebook now.)

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