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Filthy

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It’s a toss up between the two sexual misconducts I told you about, his shady business dealings and tax evasion, his direct assault on our democracy or the pattern of nepotism and corruption he leaves in his wake.
but has he ever leered at young women?
 

Filthy

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Hardly the worst thing he's ever done.

What's the worst thing that Trudeau's ever done? Put brown paint on his face for a party? Trying to argue that Trudeau has a history of being an objectively worse person than Trump, is just straight out ludicrous. But hey, none of you bother trying to actually make a case, at all - just personally insult me a few times, call for Papa @Splinty because why the fuck wouldn't you, then get in another stupid little circle jerk among yourselves over how cool you are. Have fun. ?

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just asking for you to provide something Trump has done that's as bad as the 1994 Biden Crime Act.

I'll wait.
 
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How about, go and fuck yourself, you smug, bullying, dishonest cunt?

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten how powerful and cool and intimidating you are here. Watch - I'll cry for the big man myself, save you the trouble. @Splinty! Please pink me for foolishly thinking that this cunt might actually try to do something other than be a lying dickhead troll. I know JakePaulsBeard is easily badass enough to do it himself - never forget that, I certainly won't - but he likes to whine for you to do it anyway, for some reason. So may as well just do it, eh? Trudeau is, if anything, even worse than Trump. Look, they've argued the case for it so fucking well, with in-depth, well reasoned posts, and no bitchy bullshit at all.



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I wonder how many more posters the guy gets to irritate with his unfunny bullshit before a mod takes notice and pinks him.
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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How about, go and fuck yourself, you smug, bullying, dishonest cunt?

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten how powerful and cool and intimidating you are here. Watch - I'll cry for the big man myself, save you the trouble. @Splinty! Please pink me for foolishly thinking that this cunt might actually try to do something other than be a lying dickhead troll. I know JakePaulsBeard is easily badass enough to do it himself - never forget that, I certainly won't - but he likes to whine for you to do it anyway, for some reason. So may as well just do it, eh? Trudeau is, if anything, even worse than Trump. Look, they've argued the case for it so fucking well, with in-depth, well reasoned posts, and no bitchy bullshit at all.



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well at least you're being rational and not simply spewing vile generalizations and ad hominem attacks.
 

Filthy

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I wonder how many more posters the guy gets to irritate with his unfunny bullshit before a mod takes notice and pinks him.
like he/she doesn't know exactly how many licks it takes to get to the pink center of a shit Tootsie Pop.
 
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How about, go and fuck yourself, you smug, bullying, dishonest cunt?

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten how powerful and cool and intimidating you are here. Watch - I'll cry for the big man myself, save you the trouble. @Splinty! Please pink me for foolishly thinking that this cunt might actually try to do something other than be a lying dickhead troll. I know JakePaulsBeard is easily badass enough to do it himself - never forget that, I certainly won't - but he likes to whine for you to do it anyway, for some reason. So may as well just do it, eh? Trudeau is, if anything, even worse than Trump. Look, they've argued the case for it so fucking well, with in-depth, well reasoned posts, and no bitchy bullshit at all.



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Fuck you’re weird
 
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Oh yeah, what an irrational position to take, that Donald Trump is objectively a worse person than Justin Trudeau. I bet I'm completely unwilling to construct a case to illustrate it too, right.

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They’re both on such a level of sociopathy that quibbling over which is “worse” is simply asinine; both are without a shred of humanity, and occupy almost the highest strata of “shitty guy.” They are both penultimate douchebags. Trumps indiscretions are more well known, he’s been at it a few decades longer and he’s more bombastic, but both at their core are the same person: an entitled and vainglorious trust fund baby who only care about themselves and will step on anyone to get what they crave, power.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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They’re both on such a level of sociopathy that quibbling over which is “worse” is simply asinine; both are without a shred of humanity, and occupy almost the highest strata of “shitty guy.” They are both penultimate douchebags. Trumps indiscretions are more well known, he’s been at it a few decades longer and he’s more bombastic, but both at their core are the same person: an entitled and vainglorious trust fund baby who only care about themselves and will step on anyone to get what they crave, power.
Trump's narcissism is objectively levels above Trudeau. There are damaging things that Trump will do every time out of pure selfish ego, that Trudeau will never do and this is not in realistic dispute. Did Trudeau cry about nonexistent fraud during the entire campaign, thereby doing massive and perhaps fatal damage to Canadian democracy in the pursuit of his own selfish ego? This seems to mean pretty much nothing to a lot of people, sure, but objectively there is absolutely no comparison between them. Which is given away by the conspicuous and near total absence of any sort of specific argument being advanced.

What you are doing is saying that there is no real or meaningful difference between Obama and Hitler because they both personally ordered many people killed and they both oversaw institutional killing systems and started wars which killed orders of magnitude more than that.

Which okay whatever, yeah good one. Obama and Hitler are the same level of evil psychopath, righto. Fantastic. Good talking to ya.

And then you - particularly that other little troll, to be fair - prance around high fiving each other and laughing, and telling me what a prick I am for saying no, hate on Trudeau all you want, but objectively he is simply not as unfit a national leader as Trump is. Not even close. And here are as many examples as you want, in any given area - none of which you will acknowledge at all.

Does this mean that Trudeau is a genuinely selfless, ego less, brilliant individual, or even close to it? Of course not. That he isn't a slimy, relatively corrupt, entitled, spoiled, arrogant, attention-craving ambitionbot? Of course he is, that is clearly and obviously true and it does not mean that he is as bad on any of those levels as Trump is. There are levels to this shit. That is not a difficult concept to grasp, so what exactly is the problem with acknowledging it? Whining that powerful politicians are all selfish, ambitious egomaniacs? Yeah fantastic, great point, welcome to Planet Earth for the last five thousand years. Does that mean that every politician is exactly the same level of dangerously destructive - because powerful politicians as a personality type tend to be power-hungry, entitled and spoiled? So they're all the same, and that's the end of it, because they're all the same? Are you five years old? Because that is all that either of you are repeating over and over.

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Filthy

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Trump's narcissism is objectively levels above Trudeau. There are damaging things that Trump will do every time out of pure selfish ego, that Trudeau will never do and this is not in realistic dispute. Did Trudeau cry about nonexistent fraud during the entire campaign, thereby doing massive and perhaps fatal damage to Canadian democracy in the pursuit of his own selfish ego? This seems to mean pretty much nothing to a lot of people, sure, but objectively there is absolutely no comparison between them. Which is given away by the conspicuous and near total absence of any sort of specific argument being advanced.

What you are doing is saying that there is no real or meaningful difference between Obama and Hitler because they both personally ordered many people killed and they both oversaw institutional killing systems and started wars which killed orders of magnitude more than that.

Which okay whatever, yeah good one. Obama and Hitler are the same level of evil psychopath, righto. Fantastic. Good talking to ya.

And then you - particularly that other little troll, to be fair - prance around high fiving each other and laughing, and telling me what a prick I am for saying no, hate on Trudeau all you want, but objectively he is simply not as unfit a national leader as Trump is. Not even close. And here are as many examples as you want, in any given area - none of which you will acknowledge at all.

Does this mean that Trudeau is a genuinely selfless, ego less, brilliant individual, or even close to it? Of course not. That he isn't a slimy, relatively corrupt, entitled, spoiled, arrogant, attention-craving ambitionbot? Of course he is, that is clearly and obviously true and it does not mean that he is as bad on any of those levels as Trump is. There are levels to this shit. That is not a difficult concept to grasp, so what exactly is the problem with acknowledging it? Whining that powerful politicians are all selfish, ambitious egomaniacs? Yeah fantastic, great point, welcome to Planet Earth for the last five thousand years. Does that mean that every politician is exactly the same level of dangerously destructive - because powerful politicians as a personality type tend to be power-hungry, entitled and spoiled? So they're all the same, and that's the end of it, because they're all the same? Are you five years old? Because that is all that either of you are repeating over and over.

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you're arguing which is the lesser sociopath?

Let's just agree that Biden is a more damaging sociopath than either Trump or Trudeau.
Justin can get there, even surpass Biden, if he stays in politics for another 40 years. But Trump wasted his youth on doing things not related to imprisoning millions of minority men or tearing down democracy like Biden or Trudeau.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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you're arguing which is the lesser sociopath?

Let's just agree that Biden is a more damaging sociopath than either Trump or Trudeau.
Justin can get there, even surpass Biden, if he stays in politics for another 40 years. But Trump wasted his youth on doing things not related to imprisoning millions of minority men or tearing down democracy like Biden or Trudeau.
Once again, this is all feelings. By your mindset, it is literally impossible to be a national level politician and not be an evil monster. That is a childlike view of the world. And it is flat out ridiculous to say that Biden has been more damaging to America than Trump has been. This is a man who deliberately broke the more than two hundred year uninterrupted streak of the peaceful transfer of power, "justified" purely with delusional lies and pathological inability to admit defeat, leading directly to a steadily-worsening civic crisis which he is even now formenting in preparation for an even more destructive run in three years. American democracy itself is under real and serious threat because of Trump's ego. Biden and Trudeau are simply not on that level and there is not a credible, objective, fact-based argument that you can make to show that they are. Which is why...... you aren't.

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Trump's narcissism is objectively levels above Trudeau. There are damaging things that Trump will do every time out of pure selfish ego, that Trudeau will never do and this is not in realistic dispute. Did Trudeau cry about nonexistent fraud during the entire campaign, thereby doing massive and perhaps fatal damage to Canadian democracy in the pursuit of his own selfish ego? This seems to mean pretty much nothing to a lot of people, sure, but objectively there is absolutely no comparison between them. Which is given away by the conspicuous and near total absence of any sort of specific argument being advanced.
no he just broke our fixed election law (undermining democracy) and called an election during a once in a century pandemic in a blatantly cynical and egomaniacal move with no purpose but to satisfy his ego and lust for power because he can’t function in a parliament where he doesn’t have said majority (undermining democracy). Why would he need to create a fraud narrative when he was basically guaranteed to, at worst, return to the status-quo?

What you are doing is saying that there is no real or meaningful difference between Obama and Hitler because they both personally ordered many people killed and they both oversaw institutional killing systems and started wars which killed orders of magnitude more than that.

Which okay whatever, yeah good one. Obama and Hitler are the same level of evil psychopath, righto. Fantastic. Good talking to ya.
no I’m not. That is a salacious and spurious interpretation of what I said, crafted by you to advance your own argument against a position I would never take.
And then you - particularly that other little troll, to be fair - prance around high fiving each other and laughing, and telling me what a prick I am for saying no, hate on Trudeau all you want, but objectively he is simply not as unfit a national leader as Trump is. Not even close. And here are as many examples as you want, in any given area - none of which you will acknowledge at all.
he’s as unfit a national leader as Canada has ever seen. As a direct result of his mismanagement Canada (in half a decade) has plummeted from top spots in fiscal stability, innovation, world wide respect, economic development and competitiveness, GDP per capita, quality of living, and happiness. We have seen countless scandals involving perversions of the justice system, ethics breaches, crony capitalism, and malfeasance.
Does this mean that Trudeau is a genuinely selfless, ego less, brilliant individual, or even close to it? Of course not. That he isn't a slimy, relatively corrupt, entitled, spoiled, arrogant, attention-craving ambitionbot? Of course he is, that is clearly and obviously true and it does not mean that he is as bad on any of those levels as Trump is. There are levels to this shit. That is not a difficult concept to grasp, so what exactly is the problem with acknowledging it? Whining that powerful politicians are all selfish, ambitious egomaniacs? Yeah fantastic, great point, welcome to Planet Earth for the last five thousand years. Does that mean that every politician is exactly the same level of dangerously destructive - because powerful politicians as a personality type tend to be power-hungry, entitled and spoiled? So they're all the same, and that's the end of it, they're all the same? Are you five years old? Because that is all that either of you are repeating over and over.

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Never said that. If anyone is acting like a five year old it’s you. I know you’re the smartest 911 phone answering guy, but you have an extremely inaccurate and overinflated sense of your discourse abilities.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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no he just broke our fixed election law (undermining democracy) and called an election during a once in a century pandemic in a blatantly cynical and egomaniacal move with no purpose but to satisfy his ego and lust for power because he can’t function in a parliament where he doesn’t have said majority (undermining democracy). Why would he need to create a fraud narrative when he was basically guaranteed to, at worst, return to the status-quo?
See, now we are having a discussion! :smile: You give me something to respond to, and I can actually respond to it.

Obviously I am far from an expert when it comes to Canadian political intrigue. I loosely followed the campaign - I think I'd be a Green - and so far as I can see, calling the election was a cynical, calculated strategy to bake in another term while they had the power to force it through at a moment when opponents were vulnerable, "fairness" be damned. It is certainly a legitimate controversy, and one that I would have a hard time getting past. I don't think Trudeau gets away with that without his pretty face and famous last name, put it that way.

But again, sorry but that is just not in the same league as Trump's actions before, during and after last year's election. In normal times, sure, Trudeau is as corrupt and power-hungry as any Republican you can name. But these are far from normal times, and Trump is FAR from a normal American President.

no I’m not. That is a salacious and spurious interpretation of what I said, crafted by you to advance your own argument against a position I would never take.
From what you gave me prior to this post, I'm sorry but for all intents and purposes, it was. Trudeau is not a danger to deliberately stoke political violence, surely we can agree on that? Well Trump is, and right there any equivalence between them is over.

he’s as unfit a national leader as Canada has ever seen. As a direct result of his mismanagement Canada (in half a decade) has plummeted from top spots in fiscal stability, innovation, world wide respect, economic development and competitiveness, GDP per capita, quality of living, and happiness. We have seen countless scandals involving perversions of the justice system, ethics breaches, crony capitalism, and malfeasance.
In a democratic system, one man (or woman) can only take so much blame or credit for most of that. Things like GDP are forces far outside the direct control of any individual or even political entity, especially over the short term. But once again, any direct control metric you can name - political corruption, nepotism, ignorance, incompetence, worldwide respect, even happiness to a certain extent - Trump is objectively worse. And that is NOT to say that Trudeau is good. But for example, - how does Trudeau talk about his political opponents? In a crude, violent way that encourages hatred and civil unrest? It is simply not realistic to claim that these things don't matter, or that there is no appreciable difference between the two leaders.

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See, now we are having a discussion! You give me something to respond to, and I can actually respond to it.
i told you about Trudeau sexually assaulting a woman and having an inappropriate relationship with a student and you cool starry bra’d me.

From what you gave me prior to this post, I'm sorry but for all intents and purposes, it was. Trudeau is not a danger to deliberately stoke political violence, surely we can agree on that? Well Trump is, and right there any equivalence between them is over.
I will agree to that but with a caveat for two reasons; that would never work with his base and they would be incapable of doing so. That’s how little I, and most Canadians, trusthim.

In a democratic system, one man (or woman) can only take so much blame or credit for most of that. Things like GDP are forces far outside the direct control of any individual or even political entity, especially over the short term. But once again, any direct control metric you can name - political corruption, nepotism, ignorance, incompetence, worldwide respect, even happiness to a certain extent - Trump is objectively worse. How does Trudeau talk about his political opponents? In a crude, violent way that encourages hatred and civil unrest? It is simply not realistic to claim that these things don't matter, or that there is no appreciable difference between the two leaders.
He absolutely talks about the the conservatives party and their voters in a crude way that encourages hatred and civil unrest. The only time we have been this divided is under his father as PM.

USA was and is outperforming us in all those metrics.

his cabinet is a group of cardboard cut outs, all decisions are centralized within the PMO currently run by Katie Telford. The drop in GDP is a direct result of his impositions into our resource and manufacturing sectors and slashing of funding and participation in R&D.