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Shinkicker

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The context of my statement was another poster stating that we know deaths and hospitalizations are down because of vaccination. We don't know that. That does not mean that the vaccine didn't work in trials, that means that the real world doesn't use controls.

People also seem to forget that the covid hospitalization rate is 1-5%, and that patient care has improved over the last 2 years.
98% of people being hospitalized in this last round were unvaccinated. That's real world. And that has nothing to do with patient care.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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98% of people being hospitalized in this last round were unvaccinated. That's real world.
Unvaccinated people are also more likely to go to super spreader events where they spit in each others mouths. Vaccinated people are less likely to do risky shit where they might get covid. That can't be ignored when you're talking about this.
 

Shinkicker

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Unvaccinated people are also more likely to go to super spreader events where they spit in each others mouths. Vaccinated people are less likely to do risky shit where they might get covid. That can't be ignored when you're talking about this.
Show your work.
 

Rambo John J

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Many states publish their own numbers. Check it out if you'd like.

The number may be closer to 90-95% now.
You are willing to consider other numbers now
I like this

If you think the numbers are on the level then I am not here to argue with ya, I just know "98%" sure seemed like "15 days to slow the spread" or "Safe and 95% effective" as far as media attention and push.

I'm not trying to get between somebody and their bi-yearly booster or anything.
 

Shinkicker

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is that this year, or counting back to Mar 2020?
I have no idea. I pulled that number from memory. Upon being challenged by rambonuthugger I changed it to 90-95% after finding an article that I didn't actually read. Feel free to do the research and correct me. But I would bet that I'm pretty damn close to being right.
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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I have no idea. I pulled that number from memory. Upon being challenged by rambonuthugger I changed it to 90-95% after finding an article that I didn't actually read. Feel free to do the research and correct me. But I would bet that I'm pretty damn close to being right.
the only time I've seen the "98%" included data for when the vaccine wasn't available for everyone.
 

Filthy

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average daily unvaccinated 12-49 yos (per 100k) admitted to the hospital in the Netherlands:

Zero.

85%+ of the adult population vaccinated.
Longstanding travel restrictions with testing requirements in quarantine requirements. A local populace that has taken this fairly seriously since the beginning. It is used to more community think and less individual thinking.

I'd be relatively surprised if the unvaccinated had an opportunity to get infected very often.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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85%+ of the adult population vaccinated.
Longstanding travel restrictions with testing requirements in quarantine requirements. A local populace that has taken this fairly seriously since the beginning. It is used to more community think and less individual thinking.

I'd be relatively surprised if the unvaccinated had an opportunity to get infected very often.
age and health has a lot more to do with hospitalization than vaccination status.

because Data.
 

Shinkicker

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Jan 30, 2016
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average daily unvaccinated 12-49 yos (per 100k) admitted to the hospital in the Netherlands:

Zero.
Where did you get that number?