To be fair, we don't really know that. We just have epidemiology that shows correlation. Most people were never going to die of covid, and a lot of those who were died last year.
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Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’
A federal district court judge rejected a claim by the U.S. Department of Defense that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine being administered under Emergency Use Authorization is interchangeable with Pfizer’s fully licensed Comirnaty vaccine.
Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’
A federal district court judge rejected a claim by the U.S. Department of Defense that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine being administered under Emergency Use Authorization is interchangeable with Pfizer’s fully licensed Comirnaty vaccine.childrenshealthdefense.org
First off lol at your source. What a ridiculous website. I went ahead and went to the actual brief which is what I suggest everybody do.
As best as it can that finally clears up the information. If you have a vial that is emergency use labeled but for which was created at FDA approved locations, it is identical to the branded drug and can be given as such. This includes legally. Also legally they will only apply the standard once the FDA approval date happened. They will not retroactively apply it. So no it's not just the label but rather from the date of approval and at approved facilities. But same chemical components.
Vials from other locations labeled emergency use. Maybe the same chemical content but do not legally fall under the requirements for identical FDA approval. They are chemically the same. But the distinction is made legally.
About 10% of people had covid last year. The majority of vulnerable people did not get it.
You can go ahead and start here:
And then you can walk yourself through each successive step of the placebo controlled randomized trials that have been part of the successive phases of vaccine development and review.
Then simply search Google scholar for more of the same done for other vaccines throughout the world.
thoughts on the vaccine in the under-12 demographic?
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We're discussing real world outcomes, not controlled trials, remember?Haven't seen a dick tuck that fast since @conor mcgregor nut hugger no showed his fight with
I believe the statement was:
That is simply not true.
It is through multi center blinded placebo controlled randomized trials powered for certain outcomes that you identify that causation beyond correlation.
If you're going to discount the standard for how we identify a cause for an outcome then claim there's no evidence beyond correlation then you are giving yourself a circular logic to always be right. With such a standard there is no causation for anything.
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The context of my statement was another poster stating that we know deaths and hospitalizations are down because of vaccination. We don't know that. That does not mean that the vaccine didn't work in trials, that means that the real world doesn't use controls.
People also seem to forget that the covid hospitalization rate is 1-5%, and that patient care has improved over the last 2 years.