General Senate Judiciary Committee Report on Jan 6th
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Based on your posts on Epps its safe to say you feel Trump is innocent of this question:
Society - Is Trump Guilty of Incitement?
Never mind the fact that he is unlikely to be convicted by the Senate. What do YOU think? Vote and, if you want, explain why you voted that way. No way to block foreigners so you're all welcome to vote as well, even if your opinion doesn't matter. Cheers.
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You got a real soft spot for the undercover agent Epps..
You mean?
Do I think that a man on video multiple times helping incite a riot. should be in custody and face potential charges?
Yes and don’t give me the weak ass but Trump script. You can’t possibly see the videos and not think the whole situation is shady as fuck.
LOL
I hadn’t seen him say that he’s breaking the law.
meanwhile
@Dirt McGirt“What possible laws did that poor man break”
you're cherry-picking examples that align with your narrative, while completely ignoring the many examples of exactly what I stated which have been posted in this thread and elsewhere.
this is willful ignorance.
Imagine what else we'd find if and when they release the thousands of hours of video the shameful dems are refusing to release...LOL
I hadn’t seen him say that he’s breaking the law.
meanwhile
“What possible laws did that poor man break”
Capitol Police provided more than 14,000 hours of Jan. 6 footage to lawmakers
Yes, I have yet to seen otherwise. But not all the info has been presented yet, as I have stated with Epps.Based on your posts on Epps its safe to say you feel Trump is innocent of this question:
Society - Is Trump Guilty of Incitement?
Never mind the fact that he is unlikely to be convicted by the Senate. What do YOU think? Vote and, if you want, explain why you voted that way. No way to block foreigners so you're all welcome to vote as well, even if your opinion doesn't matter. Cheers.
But considering your desire to lock Americans up for words, I am surprised you feel Trump is innocent.
If Epps committed a crime, Trump committed a crime.
What statement did he make that has you claiming he incited a riot?
So you feel any American that stated they need to go into the capital is guilty of inciting a riot?LOL
I hadn’t seen him say that he’s breaking the law.
meanwhile
“What possible laws did that poor man break”
You stated the Capital Police let rioters into the building yet you posted a link to Capital Police removing barriers that were being rushed/ opening outdoor gates that had nothing to do with direct access to the capital building.
Yet on camera we see criminals smashing down doors and GOP members opening doors to let them in.
Any American?
No not the guy 20 miles away that said it while eating lunch.
If you were telling people the day before and returned the next day to make sure people follow through.. Yes
Not sure about the people that said it after cops invited them in
so offering no resistance, supporting the "right to be here", etc is a manner of repelling an insurrection?
do you need to see video of Capitol Police opening a door in order to acknowledge that they let the people in?
LoL at Capitol Police didn't open the door, they just stood aside while someone with no authority opened the door...
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It's not use anyway, you won't change minds that are set to what they want to believe in, or hear em admitting they weren't entirely correct.
@Filthy in particular here, nothing personal, but your "nothing can happen without guns" - statement was obviously false since I dropped a prime example in the peaceful revolution on you.And especially December 4th would be a fitting comparison as far as the events of that day go.
But here you are a couple pages later again with such posts:
Now I know usually the reaction either is gonna be ignorance, or the attempt to mince words. But don't bother trying to make a discussion out of it. It's clear as day really, history is not on your side.
I love a CT attempt to mitigate responsibility for this nonsense.
It's not our fault, we were let in and encouraged!
Fuck all that. Personal responsibility.
It's not our fault, we were let in and encouraged!
Fuck all that. Personal responsibility.
I cited several factors that indicate the difference between a riot and an insurrection.It's not use anyway, you won't change minds that are set to what they want to believe in, or hear em admitting they weren't entirely correct.
And especially December 4th would be a fitting comparison as far as the events of that day go.
But here you are a couple pages later again with such posts:
Now I know usually the reaction either is gonna be ignorance, or the attempt to mince words. But don't bother trying to make a discussion out of it. It's clear as day really, history is not on your side.
none of them are present on Jan 6th. I never said "nothing can happen without guns".
guns aren't the only arms in the world. The BLM "mostly peaceful protests" involved molotovs, vehicles, and projectiles. But in this case we're talking about unarmed people marching on a political ceremony, to which the FedGov offered no resistance, to which the local gov't offered token resistance (not deploying any crowd-dispersing tactics or weapons), of which the local authorities voiced support, which was in support of the sitting Executive, which ended a few hours later when the FedGov asked.
nothing about that is an insurrection.
I don't think anyone is saying that the rioters were not criminals or should not be prosecuted. But the media narrative of "Insurrection" is being used to justify a DoJ "domestic terrorism division".
so the Portland riots were also an insurrection?
Now, I have to correct myself, because it wasn't in this thread. But who keeps track of that. Not me.
Anyway, you did say this tho:
This together with two of your questions are laid to rest. Stuff can happen without guns.
Idc about the Jan 6 discussion really, not really invested in that. But when you use blanket statements to argue your case, first check if those hold up. In this case, they don't.
Lmao. Don't forget Chaz. They had their own warlord passing out weapons. Do we have a day of memorial for that? We should.
what blanket statement did I make?
MAYBE if they had weapons...because that would show intent to hold the Capitol. Or would at least show disregard for the laws of DC (open carrying of firearms is highly illegal there). It was less of a riot than the protests in Portland, which targeted government buildings and personnel with violence, and were sustained over weeks/months.
Why was no one calling those people "domestic terrorists" or "insurrectionists"?
I'm demanding consistency in how we label behavior.
CHAZ is an even better example, I keep forgetting and lumping them in with "Portland Riots".
Q @Qat - was CHAZ an insurrection?
Well to be fair I thought you were talking about Chaz but had to look up and see it was in Seattle. Hard to keep track of all the events during that period. There was more or less a take over of the entire united states' for a couple of months. I still remember texting a buddy of mine with a link to all of the firey events that were taking place. They even took over a CNN building and now it's like it didn't happen hahaha