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Rambo John J

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I think it's important where they talk about shifting behaviors. We should have shut down high risk activities and encouraged low risk ones...but we shut those down too. Shutting the national parks was the dumbest thing ever and we knew that a few months into the pandemic.
Lockdown was also intended to be a bridge to mustering resources followed by targeted interventions. We didn't do that either. So why would we have a change in death? We had no increase in PPE, coordinated plans for resources, or testing spun up.

Also worth nothing this is all comers. We locked down in Texas and then released all restrictions and shot the moon...duh. yeah that doesn't do anything but hurt. You just delayed it by a month while hurting people economically and increasing other disease burden.

The whole country locked down as New York was getting hit. The Johns Hopkins article specifically talks about the first wave of all comers. And in that case we locked down prematurely in most places. The hurt of lockdown was absolutely greater than the disease...there weren't any cases. Was the new York lockdown more effective since they were actually in the midst of COVID19 burden? There are models that say it was effective but did increase other disease burden too. A net benefit with pros and cons.

People will read their headline and try to exaggerate it to whatever political meaning they seem to have here. But there's some real data to be gleened such as targeted shutdown like bar closings. But then could you minimize that impact with patios? Dunno. I just know there's now data that Hauler @Hauler being in a bar until the last minute before lockdown means he is a terrible person. And old.
No political judgement or comment from me, great post dude.
 

Hauler

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I just know there's now data that @
Hauler
@Hauler being in a bar until the last minute before lockdown means he is a terrible person.
And you get that from that article?

“We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.

And then..

“Closing nonessential businesses seems to have had some effect (reducing COVID-19 mortality by 10.6%), which is likely to be related to the closure of bars,” they said.



If I'm not mistaken, weren't the shutdowns the start of the "14 days to stop the spread" phase?

So yeah. I went out as a perfectly healthy individual with zero symptoms and supported a local business on the last day, then left a huge tip to help those workers bridge those 2 weeks.

I'm such an asshole.
 

Hauler

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I think he was trying to do a funny.

But you know, there is a reason he became a doctor with IT as a hobby.
Maybe. But he isn't wrong. I did go out the night before the drakonian measures were put in place. ?
 

Hauler

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I was speaking German. It's that dry German wit.
I'm like 75% German. That's probably why I was able to dominate their wordle without even speaking the language.

I'll lay it on heavier next time lover. They didn't say you were old either.
Not your fault. I got my W-2's yesterday. I'm always testy when I see how much money I gave to DC so they can throw it away.
 

Hauler

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Just saw a political add for Mike Gibbons. It was Rand Paul ripping Fauci a new one. Man, Rand hates that fucking guy.
 
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I totally get it.
I do think of myself as a hilarious guy, others vary in that assessment.
German "jokes":

Why did ze chicken cross ze road?

Because it had patiently waited for ze crosswalk sign to signal zat it could legally make ze crossing.

Knock knock.

Who's zere?

Denmark, Ze Nederlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Austria, Czech Republic, and Poland. Zey all share borders with Germany.

I'll see myself aus.
 
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According to data released by the Army last week, more than 3,300 soldiers have refused to get the vaccine. The Army has said that more than 3,000 soldiers have been issued official written reprimands, which suggests they are already identified in the disciplinary process, and some of them could be among the first to be discharged

Let's assume they are just talking active duty component. There's almost 500k soldiers there. Well over 99% have not refused.
 

Rambo John J

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Let's assume they are just talking active duty component. There's almost 500k soldiers there. Well over 99% have not refused.
I wonder if those numbers(if accurate) will change for the 3rd, 4th, 5th booster...etc...if those are also required
 

MMAHAWK

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Feb 5, 2015
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Oregon made public school kids masking rule permanent

Because Politics, red states are bad

Shame on them
That’s sad

I confronted my “safety manager” on Tuesday about them tweaking the mandate to make them exempt. They made some crazy rule that if you have an office of a cubicle you don’t need to wear a mask. That of course only covered the district office and management. I said if cubicles make people safe from Covid then why have you refused to put cubicles in my department. Then another co worker jusmped in and said it’s pretty bad for a safety manager to deny saving their People they are managing. She seemed to want to cry and now we’re looking at bids for thousands of dollars in cubicles lol.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Roughly 260 animals, of many different species, have now received an experimental COVID-19 vaccine at San Diego Zoo and Safari Park. Most animals “volunteered” like the cheetahs, says Lamberski, though some were vaccinated from afar via darts.
This explains all the protests.
 

Rambo John J

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"Roughly 260 animals, of many different species, have now received an experimental COVID-19 vaccine at San Diego Zoo and Safari Park. Most animals “volunteered” like the cheetahs, says Lamberski, though some were vaccinated from afar via darts."


"Most animals “volunteered”"


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Slipped in a recent CDC release.

During May–November 2021, case and hospitalization rates were highest among persons who were unvaccinated without a previous diagnosis. Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.

You'll eventually see previous infection count for any criteria like other diseases where we check titers.

Note this is still an aggregate. Infection is decent population level protection but doesn't say anything about an individual. Timelines for vaccine efficacy and subsequent waning of protection are much more predictable.
Still need X titer level == protection.

This data also only looks at two vaccine series and not booster. It's also focused on Delta. We in that Omicron but the trend of protection and reduction in future severe disease is already showing up.