General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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Hauler

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Retaliatory sanctions. They are already supplying Germany with oil. The pipeline would have made it cheaper by bypassing Ukraine taxes.
But from what I'm reading this pipeline wasn't supposed to be active until the summer anyway. So this announcement has no immediate impact.

This Reuters article is from a couple months ago...
 

Greenbean

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But from what I'm reading this pipeline wasn't supposed to be active until the summer anyway. So this announcement has no immediate impact.

This Reuters article is from a couple months ago...
It doesn't, I don't think. You're right. But they aren't going to recoup their investment on the pipeline any time soon. It's owned by Russia, not a private company. Probably a drop in the bucket, but if they were banking on the pipeline, which I'm sure they were or it wouldn't have been built, then not only is the pipeline a waste of money, but they are also being screwed out of future tax and logistics savings. Also, it's the first of many sanctions to come.

On a side note, look for the rest of the world to cozy up to the middle east. Russia is smart (obviously) to cement relations with china, because without them, they're screwed. They offer the world nothing that the world can't get somewhere else.
 

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False flag meme. That was the Russians. 4d

Indeed.

The point of the tweet to criticise Putin's outrageous claim that Ukraine is not a real country, with real history. Ukraine can claim to be the birthplace of Russian civilization more than Moscow can.
 
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This is why I have trouble with people selling this as a purely Russian instigation.

Russia -- We have a right to invade, Ukraine since it's really ours anyway.

Ukraine embassy - yo bros, here's quick evidence to the contrary that we've existed before you did and you don't own us.

BeardOfKnowledge @BeardOfKnowledge - Russia is being attacked!
 
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Really, the Russians should be trolling back.

Wtf do you call the unbadged troops being referenced as just "little green men". What prep as "just a training exercises" etc.
All of Russian geopolitics runs on whataboutism and trolling. It's been effective.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Russia -- We have a right to invade, Ukraine since it's really ours anyway.

Ukraine embassy - yo bros, here's quick evidence to the contrary that we've existed before you did and you don't own us.

BeardOfKnowledge @BeardOfKnowledge - Russia is being attacked!
U.S. embassy in Kiev not Ukrainian embassy in Washington...

That's the CIA trolling Russia.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Wtf do you call the unbadged troops being referenced as just "little green men". What prep as "just a training exercises" etc.
All of Russian geopolitics runs on whataboutism and trolling. It's been effective.
This post, hilariously, is whataboutism.
 

Wintermute

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They already got the Sevastopol port, that's Crimea they annexed in 2014. I fear what they want is to restore parts of the Soviet Union back. Overrun Ukraine and then have Belarus join with them....to what end I don't know. Because it's a really dumb move economically and will isolate them even more from rest of the world. But who knows what's going through a former KGB officers head. What I was reading about Putin is about his work in counter intelligence, specifically counter intelligence, or looking for double agents in their own ranks, which made him super paranoid, so he mistrusts everyone around, especially the west. That would explain his policies to some degree, and the kind of government he built, made up close childhood friends and nepotism.

Unless they are throwing all their chips on the table, like you said with Taiwan too. Putin and Xi both, two autocrats would decide to go it alone and just do whatever they want and turn their back on the west. Can they do this economically? I hope not.

Good thing happened today is Germany halted the gas pipeline. Hopefully NATO will take a harder line too and come up with a united defensive response.
I saw that! Good start and I'm glad Germany decided to nut up, but yes, I think Russia anticipated this; NordStream 2 has been a political hot potato for a long time. They're in demographic collapse and probably figure (correctly) it's now or never.

I didn't realize it until you mentioned it, (yes they did annex Crimea to get Sevastopol, which was the most important part, however a federal city inside an antagonistic neighboring country isn't secure) However, Russian forces have Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides- Crimea, Russia and Belarus. I bet they move in in a pincer movement. Sure enough, that's what the intel showed from a few weeks ago.

The weird thing is they're going to the trouble to manufacture a pretext for war. They go to great lengths to make sure the west knows they don't care what they think. I wonder if it's Chinese influence? They're 180˚ the other direction. It's ALL appearances and pretext. The whole "peace-keeping force" charade is so weird.
 

Hauler

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north America is sitting on a ton of it.
Playing "catch-up" on that drilling...

January 2021:

August 2021:

Febrauary 2022:

Biden must have a yuge dick, because he keeps stepping on it.
 

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Back over here and Johnson has let the oligarchs off the hook.


Russians have been giving The Tory Party millions and millions. It's so brazen it would be funny. One of the oilgarchs wives bid 345k for a game of tennis with Johnson at a donor event. The bid was at 2k before she bid. They are being used as a laundry but they don't care so long as they get a slice.


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Playing "catch-up" on that drilling...

January 2021:

August 2021:

Febrauary 2022:

Biden must have a yuge dick, because he keeps stepping on it.
i got your oil right here pal