General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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nuraknu

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I have coworkers in Ukraine- some of them disappeared without communicating- were not in yesterday and no one was sure if they were ok. We heard one was planning to try to move west, but that was all we got. He may be fighting now because of the under 60 thing. Been hoping they're all ok. Everyone is worried.
 
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We have some more details on the Russian claim it has seized the city of Melitopol, from the Guardian’s Peter Beaumont, in Lviv.

Russian forces reportedly captured the southeastern Ukrainian city of Melitopol on Saturday, Russia’s Interfax news agency reported. Footage posted on social media on Saturday morning appeared to show Russian armoured vehicles in the streets of the city although the city’s mayor issued a statement saying it remained under Ukrainian control.

The claimed capture of Melitopol follows claims by a senior US defence official that Russia had made an amphibious landing of naval infantry between the Melitopol and the key coastal city of Mariaupol.

It was also denied by UK armed forces minister James Heappey who said he did “not recognise reports that Ukrainian southern coastal city of Melitopol has fallen to Russian forces, adding that the Russian invasion plan is running “nowhere near” to schedule.”

Ukrainian officials were not immediately available for comment on the fate of Melitopol, a city of about 150,000 people. If confirmed, it would be the first significant population centre the Russians have seized since their invasion began on Thursday.

Earlier, Ukrainian officials said Russian forces fired cruise missiles from the Black Sea at Mariupol, as well as Sumy in the northeast and Poltava in the east.
 

Miesha's Taint

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I have coworkers in Ukraine- some of them disappeared without communicating- were not in yesterday and no one was sure if they were ok. We heard one was planning to try to move west, but that was all we got. He may be fighting now because of the under 60 thing. Been hoping they're all ok. Everyone is worried.
Hope all is well
 

kneeblock

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I have coworkers in Ukraine- some of them disappeared without communicating- were not in yesterday and no one was sure if they were ok. We heard one was planning to try to move west, but that was all we got. He may be fighting now because of the under 60 thing. Been hoping they're all ok. Everyone is worried.
Very sorry to hear. Hoping they can get to safety.
 

FINGERS

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Seems to me the West does have some serious levers of soft power that aren't being used.

The populace of Russia need to be pissed off. Close down their Netflix with a message saying due the Aggression and war crimes of Putin Netflix is cancelled in Russia. The Swyft banking system needs to be shut off for them. That will be a major pain for Russians and will make them draw out loads of paper money. No planes from Russia allowed to land in the west. All sport completely shut off for them. Google and Facebook to shut them down with a message a la Netflix. No Russian ship allowed to dock in the west. All Russian nationals bank accounts frozen. Harsh for the ordinary Russian but it forces them to return home and be pissed off with Putin

Completely ostracise them.
 

Miesha's Taint

Miesha's Taint
Dec 3, 2018
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Seems to me the West does have some serious levers of soft power that aren't being used.

The populace of Russia need to be pissed off. Close down their Netflix with a message saying due the Aggression and war crimes of Putin Netflix is cancelled in Russia. The Swyft banking system needs to be shut off for them. That will be a major pain for Russians and will make them draw out loads of paper money. No planes from Russia allowed to land in the west. All sport completely shut off for them. Google and Facebook to shut them down with a message a la Netflix. No Russian ship allowed to dock in the west. All Russian nationals bank accounts frozen. Harsh for the ordinary Russian but it forces them to return home and be pissed off with Putin

Completely ostracise them.
Once we cut them off from IKEA meatballs game over...Olive oil btw...Healthy oil


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Chips and IKEA gravy....Game over
 

Thuglife13

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Zelensky will likely survive no matter what happens. The 'stay in the capital' thing is for morale, they'll get him out to Lviv if the walls close in.

Can't rule out that he gets got before they can get him out but not likely.
It also occurs to me that offing president's of other nations isn't a great PR move even if you're the scary Ruskies.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Seems to me the West does have some serious levers of soft power that aren't being used.

The populace of Russia need to be pissed off. Close down their Netflix with a message saying due the Aggression and war crimes of Putin Netflix is cancelled in Russia. The Swyft banking system needs to be shut off for them. That will be a major pain for Russians and will make them draw out loads of paper money. No planes from Russia allowed to land in the west. All sport completely shut off for them. Google and Facebook to shut them down with a message a la Netflix. No Russian ship allowed to dock in the west. All Russian nationals bank accounts frozen. Harsh for the ordinary Russian but it forces them to return home and be pissed off with Putin

Completely ostracise them.
They already are being completely ostracized. All sanctions like that would do is cause the citizens who are currently pissed with the government to side with it
 

FINGERS

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They already are being completely ostracized. All sanctions like that would do is cause the citizens who are currently pissed with the government to side with it

I wouldn't be so sure. This is a different generation of Russian. They've seen the good life. From The Olympics to the world cup to winning the Eurovision. They are culturally more western than ever. We turn off the tap and they be irked. They don't want to be ostracised and cut off. And they won't blame us they will blame Putin.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I wouldn't be so sure. This is a different generation of Russian. They've seen the good life. From The Olympics to the world cup to winning the Eurovision. They are culturally more western than ever. We turn off the tap and they be irked. They don't want to be ostracised and cut off. And they won't blame us they will blame Putin.
I'll ignore for a second that you're advocating for a campaign of discrimination that the average Russian would never recover from. Taking away those things leaves a vacuum that would be filled by Russian propaganda. Sanctions never work to do anything other than hurt the public.
 

Gully Foyle

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I wouldn't be so sure. This is a different generation of Russian. They've seen the good life. From The Olympics to the world cup to winning the Eurovision. They are culturally more western than ever. We turn off the tap and they be irked. They don't want to be ostracised and cut off. And they won't blame us they will blame Putin.
I agree with you, but it's also gonna be really tough for them to protest. Over last 10 years they cracked down HARD on opposition and free speech. You can get arrested and beated for wearing your hat backwards, it's insane. And they have alot of cops...it's a damn shame what's happening there.
Also turning off YouTube will essentially cut off regular people from unbiased information sources....they won't even be able to watch what's going on.
They already cracked down on telegram app that was uses in Belarus to organize protests....
 

FINGERS

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I agree with you, but it's also gonna be really tough for them to protest. Over last 10 years they cracked down HARD on opposition and free speech. You can get arrested and beated for wearing your hat backwards, it's insane. And they have alot of cops...it's a damn shame what's happening there.
Also turning off YouTube will essentially cut off regular people from unbiased information sources....they won't even be able to watch what's going on.
They already cracked down on telegram app that was uses in Belarus to organize protests....

Yeah it's grim. But it's grimmer for normal folk in Ukraine.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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is TMMAC hungover from clubbing last night? why the hell is this thread so dead today?

i dont have cable, facebook, or twitter. so step up your games please

 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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is TMMAC hungover from clubbing last night? why the hell is this thread so dead today?

i dont have cable, facebook, or twitter. so step up your games please

@Lars stays up until the wee hours and then reappears, angry, around noon. He tends to mellow throughout the day though which is nice
 

Gully Foyle

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Russian media watchdog ordered the few and limited, mostly online media outlets available in Russia to only publish "official information" about Ukraine provided by Russian government. They will probably get shut off in upcoming days.