General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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shut the fuck up you stupid bitch. he didnt get in thru the locked fucking door. he got in thru the window next to it. look at the pic you posted dumbass.
Well done!

He was confronted with a locked door - just like your suggestion called for - and he shot his way in anyway. With his AR-15.

So what's your next "solution"?

You upset that there was a glass wall, in this ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? Are you now calling for every single ELEMENTARY SCHOOL in the nation to be designed with the same security precautions as a maximum security prison?

Anything....... anything but the guns, right?

??
 

Leigh

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Jan 26, 2015
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  • They didn't give black people equal rights until the 1960s.
    • When did Britain give Indians equal rights? What's their human rights track record, if we're casting stones.
  • They have the lowest life expectancy in the Western world.
    • Not true. Lithuania, Greenland, Romania, Moldova, all of South America, etc
  • They have the highest rate of absolute poverty in the Western world.
    • Not true. Italy has higher poverty rates than the US, for one.
  • They are the only developed nation without national healthcare.
    • Nope, not even close. Mexico is not a developed nation? LoL.
  • They're allowing states to outlaw abortion.
    • They're also allowing states to protect abortion. We're trying to live by our Constitution.
  • They have extreme rates of fundamentalist religion.
    • By what standard? compared to...?
  • Military spending equal to the next ten countries combined.
    • actually, the next 16
  • Highest number of prisoners, both per capita and absolute.
    • Yep. And yet some say the solution is to imprison 100s of thousands more over their hobby. Seems counter-intuitive.
  • Highest rate of murder among developed nations BY FAR.
    • Nope, not even close. Russia, Mexico, Colombia...lots of developed nations with higher intentional homicide rates.
But they did, remember which team opposed it a billion to zero.

Name a country that's perfect in human history.





And what's your theory on that?

Gun violence?

What are the 3 main causes of mortality, and what could the same government touting "gun control" do to curb those issues, and why haven't they?







In the "western world"?

Care to elaborate on who's included in "the western world" and what metrics are used for the word "poverty"?

America's homeless addicts-by-design make more money on the freeway corners than 90% of the planet with the option to eat like the kings of old couldn't.







I think you need a hundred-year history lesson on the etymology and actionable consequences of "healthcare".

I guess the last 2 weren't obvious enough.

BTW, it is nationalized, for the 90+%, you might look into that with the keywords "medicare", "medicaid", the "VA", then scroll through proxies, subsidiaries & bureaucracy.







"They" should've never federalized it, America is a republic. Maybe you should actually read the constitution you cited with a fresh set of eyeballs.

It's "they" who broke established precedent with the passage of R V Wade in the first place, based on emotion, a lobby that eclipses the NRA, an agenda and bald-faced lies.





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I find it ironic you cite American society as broken without having a clue you propagate the root causes of its decay.

Protection of the unborn is the core of moral decline; anyone who doesn't grasp this serves only an agenda that calls them "useful idiots", virtue-signaling regarding the gun "debate" as well as most others along a party line.

I'd search high-IQ individuals and watch them debate on it with the core arguments being 'war' and 'population control'.







Yeah, it's one of the core principals the country was founded on, why hundreds of millions have(and do) flock(ed) here over centuries across oceans the diameter of the moon avoiding persecution, and arguably the glue that holds the experiment together.

Where's the inclusion?







Amazingly the citation of military strength and its implications are completely missed in this base argument.

World powers use mutually assured destruction as a premise for stability, but apparently not for the individual?







A career in penology might suit you. Or just have a chat with 10 prison guards who've spent more than 10 years in the system.

It's a terrible and tragic societal problem, but that's only because all the wrong people are incarcerated.

It's the orchestrators who belong there, most of the people who help form your opinions on that rectangular device in the living room.

Again, the root cause alludes you.









Not even close to close.

The highest rate of murder belongs SOLELY to the governments of the world.

Individuals don't even have the capacity to kill on the scope of governments to their own people as well as abroad.





You like many here are stuck in a box.

If studying is too time-consuming take a mushroom or DMT trip, and before you begin, write the golden rule on a piece of paper in front of you.

Recall that "everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten", then look around at ANY government and ask yourself if they're abiding by that principal.



Do Gavin Newsome, Lori Lightfoot, Bill DeBlasio, Jacinda Arden, Bill Gates, George Soros, Joe Biden, Klaus Schwab, Tedros Ghebreyesus, Emmanuel Macron, Jinping Xi and Justin Trudeau look like they're treating us like they want to be treated?
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I agree with your whole list but not this one as proper criticism or fair stat. It's a few percent and we carry the weight of NATO and essentially the entire western world through our ability to deploy power.



Framing it as a proportion against other countries. Really just ignores...we rich.



Also I support cutting our military budget but not because I think it's inherently bad to have a big military. We just have a lot of bloat right now.







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In and of itself, fair enough. When you consider the other issues could be addressed with more funding, it becomes a criticism.
 

GO BIG RED!!!

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Well done!

He was confronted with a locked door - just like your suggestion called for - and he shot his way in anyway. With his AR-15.

So what's your next "solution"?

You upset that there was a glass wall, in this ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? Are you now calling for every single ELEMENTARY SCHOOL in the nation to be designed with the same security precautions as a maximum security prison?

Anything....... anything but the guns, right?

??
yes. secure the schools. by any means available to protect the kids.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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yes. secure the schools. by any means available to protect the kids.
Just so long as it doesn't involve anyone so much as mentioning the existence of the guns, right?

You seriously calling for every child in America to go to elementary, middle and then high schools that are all designed as maximum security prisons?

??
 

GO BIG RED!!!

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Just so long as it doesn't involve anyone so much as mentioning the existence of the guns, right?

You seriously calling for every child in America to go to elementary, middle and then high schools that are all designed as maximum security prisons?

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you dont know what i think about guns. and there are plenty of solutions that will secure the schools without turning them into prisons.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Then you should be allowed to buy a musket dating back when constitution was written, not an AR 15 with a massive clip.
I get your point, but the word you are looking for is magazine.
 

Jesus X

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Sep 7, 2015
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Handguns are most common crime gun and their portable and concealable nature make them a public threat and difficult to police compared to a long gun.
We should just make them hard to conceal like a 500 S & W
 

Speaker to Animals

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May 16, 2021
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Emotions, emotions.

The problem can't be fixed.
Most people wouldn't voluntarily turn over what firearms they own.
The alternative is removing weapons by force.

Neither will work.

Solution?
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Emotions, emotions.

The problem can't be fixed.
Most people wouldn't voluntarily turn over what firearms they own.
The alternative is removing weapons by force.

Neither will work.

Solution?
There isn't a singular solution because it isn't a singular problem.

I don't want to give up my guns because the bad guys would still have them. That is a very valid reason.

If ALL guns were gone, I'd be OK handing my non-hunting weapons over. But that's fantasy land.

The over-medication of Americans is a huge reason for these issues. Rather than teach kids to cope, we drug them up. Then if they fall off their meds, it's an issue. This is all exacerbated by the evils of social media.
 

Speaker to Animals

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May 16, 2021
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There isn't a singular solution because it isn't a singular problem.

I don't want to give up my guns because the bad guys would still have them. That is a very valid reason.

If ALL guns were gone, I'd be OK handing my non-hunting weapons over. But that's fantasy land.
I live in a second floor apartment, but if I lived below I'd have a hand gun, no question.

This neighborhood switches between "fuck the police" and "call the police" every month or so.
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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I live in a second floor apartment, but if I lived below I'd have a hand gun, no question.

This neighborhood switches between "fuck the police" and "call the police" every month or so.
I live out in the sticks. A 911 call would probably take a long time to get to my place - if they could find it right away.

If someone came to my property with bad intentions it would be on me and me alone to take care of shit. I certainly don't anticipate that happening, but just a month ago someone nearby - a known loonie - was busted for emptying his handgun into a political sign he didn't agree with. I'd rather be prepared.