General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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nuraknu

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Jul 20, 2016
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Ok this is not a prevention solution but people getting active shooter training are learning how to use tourniquets because supposedly there is enough data now (sadly) that they believe that is one thing that will save a significant number of victims.

So tourniquet training + double entryways for guests.

For the record, I don't think it's like a prison if a random stranger isn't allowed in a building to encounter my son in the bathroom on a pass, and in Manhattan we have plenty of beautiful non-school apartment and office buildings with security checkin/doormen who do not let people in unless their reason to be there checks out. I guess I just don't see the issue.

In our schoolyards/direct entrances, we mostly have double security doors - so they only open from the inside unless you have a key, when there's a keyhole. No windows in the doors. They're opened from the inside to let the children in, and kept closed when they're not in use.

Idk guys I'm not saying we'll never have a problem, but basic safety measures are really not crazy. Even when I lived in a very rural area, back then they weren't behind security glass, but you still had to pass by the front desk to get in, several offices were right there - people could be called out to help, and random people weren't allowed.

When the shooter is someone who is supposed to be there - that's a bigger issue. But horribly this shooting seems (at least at this stage) like one big F up on the basics.
 
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Ok this is not a prevention solution but people getting active shooter training are learning how to use tourniquets because supposedly there is enough data now (sadly) that they believe that is one thing that will save a significant number of victims.

So tourniquet training + double entryways for guests.

For the record, I don't think it's like a prison if a random stranger isn't allowed in a building to encounter my son in the bathroom on a pass, and in Manhattan we have plenty of beautiful non-school apartment and office buildings with security checkin/doormen who do not let people in unless their reason to be there checks out. I guess I just don't see the issue.

In our schoolyards/direct entrances, we mostly have double security doors - so they only open from the inside unless you have a key, when there's a keyhole. No windows in the doors. They're opened from the inside to let the children in, and kept closed when they're not in use.

Idk guys I'm not saying we'll never have a problem, but basic safety measures are really not crazy. Even when I lived in a very rural area, back then they weren't behind security glass, but you still had to pass by the front desk to get in, several offices were right there - people could be called out to help, and random people weren't allowed.

When the shooter is someone who is supposed to be there - that's a bigger issue. But horribly this shooting seems (at least at this stage) like one big F up on the basics.
ohhh i’m from manhattan i’m so fancy!!

 

Rambo John J

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What would be the problem with people applying for a gun license and a background check being done?
Not sure if you are aware that there is a lot more in that bill besides that.
Your article only mentions it at the very end.

Not trying to be a dick, just saying it isn't as simple as your summary made it sound.
 

Rambo John J

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i had to get a background check for my gun license. it wuz da worst fing of muh life
You have to run a background check for purchases from gun stores where I live.
I have an uncommon name so mine go thru in 5 minutes...If you have a common name like yourself it takes up to 7 days

I live in Shitwater, USA
 
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FINGERS

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Worst spot on that river, that is why I chose it
It has some of the purest water in the world in the good spots

Well it doesn't.

It's not even in the top thousand of purest waters in the world when you consider the Himalayers alone has over 1 thousand of tributaries give or take.

Not including the pyrenees which is also purer. Plus the likes of new Zealand and even countries like Barbados which have perfect pH water.

But I take your point.
 

Rambo John J

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Well it doesn't.

It's not even in the top thousand of purest waters in the world when you consider the Himalayers alone has over 1 thousand of tributaries give or take.

Not including the pyrenees which is also purer. Plus the likes of new Zealand and even countries like Barbados which have perfect pH water.

But I take your point.
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