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BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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It's also strange that they hate teachers. But now they want to give them guns
The more I think about it, it makes sense. If you think teachers are trying to fuck the kids, it does make sense that they'll do a better job protecting them than the police will.
 

Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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How else would one explain it?
Without "go and suck a dick".
That's unacceptable.



The Clinton affair seems like the correct answer. He certainly wasn't as crass as Trump, but that was very much when the public just resigned themselves to politicians lying about anything and everything.
If you have to go back that far to find an example, you're reeeeeaching.

And to compare any expressed vitriol then to what passes for acceptable public discourse now is pretty inapt.

Donald Trump made being a total piece of shit a positive thing, and I'll hate what he did until he's dead.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Without "go and suck a dick".
That's unacceptable.
That's reasonable.


If you have to go back that far to find an example, you're reeeeeaching.

And to compare any expressed vitriol then to what passes for acceptable public discourse now is pretty inapt.

Donald Trump made being a total piece of shit a positive thing, and I'll hate what he did until he's dead.
You can hate Trump all you want. But what Bubba did is what it is. He normalized being president and a garbage person. You asked when decorum left the chat, it seems like that's it. At least Nixon had the decency to resign.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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it’s fucking weird. muh GOP! muh white replacement theory, muh american gunsss! leave them all alone!!

just speaking out as a friend
You might consider waiting until they actually happen.
 

Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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That's reasonable.




You can hate Trump all you want. But what Bubba did is what it is. He normalized being president and a garbage person. You asked when decorum left the chat, it seems like that's it. At least Nixon had the decency to resign.
"My opponent had an intern shove a cigar up her cunt. What kind of asshole clown does that kind of shit?"

Didn't happen. What was said was sharply put, but not entirely lacking in decorum, or peppered with obscenities.

How this idiot woman worded what she had to say was high school gym-level.

Fine for an emotionally undeveloped teenager. Not so much for an elected official or candidate for any office.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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"My opponent had an intern shove a cigar up her cunt. What kind of asshole clown does that kind of shit?"

Didn't happen. What was said was sharply put, but not entirely lacking in decorum, or peppered with obscenities.
It's the banging interns, and then lying about it under oath that lacked "decorum".

How this idiot woman worded what she had to say was high school gym-level.

Fine for an emotionally undeveloped teenager. Not so much for an elected official or candidate for any office.
I don't disagree.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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The Clinton affair seems like the correct answer. He certainly wasn't as crass as Trump, but that was very much when the public just resigned themselves to politicians lying about anything and everything.
It "seems like" the correct answer because you're automatically going to default to being a GOP shill, every single fucking time.

The "correct answer" to the question of which POTUS broke the public trust about the sanctity of the Oval Office and the honest character of the man who occupied it, is Nixon. Things happened in the world before Rupert Murdoch took over your "education", you know.

And civil political discourse was killed by Bill Clinton? More pathetic shilling, just mindlessly repeating Tucker's script. Clinton NEVER publicly talked about his political opponents and rivals in any way that is remotely like ANY mainstream Republican now. Nobody in his era did. Dubya wasn't a great speaker, but he never embraced being a total cunt like Trump's entire personality is. And Obama was one of the greatest orators and most mild-mannered personalities the White House has ever seen.

Give us a single example of a nasty thing that Bill Clinton ever said in public, on the record, about a political opponent? Naaaaaah, you won't. What a surprise, right? Keep mindlessly shilling for cunts, though. ?

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Speaker to Animals

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It's the banging interns, and then lying about it under oath that lacked "decorum".



I don't disagree.
It may have been unclear that I was talking about public/ published speech and behavior.

Donald Trump is born-wealthy trash and it's reflected in his boorishness.
Dignity of any kind is beyond him, whether it's graciously accepting defeat or being noble about a victory.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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It may have been unclear that I was talking about public/ published speech and behavior.

Donald Trump is born-wealthy trash and it's reflected in his boorishness.
Dignity of any kind is beyond him, whether it's graciously accepting defeat or being noble about a victory.
Valid points.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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At least Nixon had the decency to resign.
No.

The Republican Party back then had the decency to force him out of office. He left because his own party wouldn't back him, no matter what he did or what he threatened individuals with. They were ashamed of him, and they chose defending American democracy over prostrating themselves before the Glorious Leader.

0.0% chance that happens with the modern GOP.

That's the key fucking difference between then and now.

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