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A technique for reversing a ground position. Nate was on top. Conor swept. Then Conor was on top. What would you call it?
Mendes has a much better double than Frankie, much better. Frankies wrestling style is a lot closer to the Eastern European style Conor trains, there is plenty of clues Conor will handle Frankie easier than Chad.
Ye I'm new but unlike a lot of you, this isn't the only sport I understand, I've probably played more sports than a lot of you have watched and that's not getting into what I've watched. Oh ye I have several qualifications in sport and excercise, including coaching tickets for two sports which are vastly more mechanically complicated than any element of MMA except BJJ. But ye sit on your high horse cause you have more watched fights under your belt.
I would call what happened a scramble. one which Nate decided to pull guard on. COnor had very little to do with that transition.
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So Conor had nothing to do with that, and Nate decided to give up a dominant position for shits and giggles...
You trolling on a slow day at work, aren't you?
@Psychotropic Wanderlust gotta say, you are not looking good here. Don't hate on Alienhomie and give him rainbows when he is correct.That was a well done reversal by Conor. And if you don't believe us, watch the Gracie breakdown. I'm sure you will accept their authority, right?
No, but it wasnt a sweep. it was a scramble. one which Nate dictated. Conor disrupted him trying for mount. but Nate pulled him into guard, trying for rubber guard.So Conor had nothing to do with that, and Nate decided to give up a dominant position for shits and giggles...
You trolling on a slow day at work, aren't you?
I aint hating on no one. and that was not a well done reversal by any means.
That was a well done reversal by Conor. And if you don't believe us, watch the Gracie breakdown. I'm sure you will accept their authority, right?
Hmkay, I guess we are done here then.
Take a look at that breakdown though if you can. Pretty please?
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I'll even time stamp it for you homie.Hmkay, I guess we are done here then.
Take a look at that breakdown though if you can. Pretty please?
View: https://youtu.be/mLx65kl_2R8?t=13m4s
listen guy, Nate never had position in that transition. neither of them did. thats why its considered a scramble. if Nate got mount then Conor reversed it THAT would be a reversal or sweep.Hmkay, I guess we are done here then.
Take a look at that breakdown though if you can. Pretty please?
do you guys even BJJ bro?
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I'm pretty sure i heard Rener call it a sweep.
Swwwwwww-eep.
I'll believe Rener's opinion on the matter.
LOL, thats quiet the stretch.
Nate landed like that in his "x guard". the only thing Conor did was grab his leg and push up with his, which is a natrual thing to do in that instance.
it was desperation at best. I would never call that a sweep. ever.
'listen guy'? Is that a placeholder for an insult you just don't have the courage to write? Because we are siding with actual experts on that matter, and not you? Not appreciating that.
Rener and the Gracie's were not the only ones to give it such names. Maybe try to find some breakdowns and analyses that support your claim, and then come back to it.
But generally speaking, names are nothing but smokes and mirrors. What he did there was well done, no matter what you call it, especially considering who he did it against.
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Did you stuff your straw man with ad hominems, or the other way around?
BJJ and groundwork is not my forté, but I'll believe them more than you, sorry. And as I said, they were not the only experts. But it probably wouldn't matter showing you, you would just discredit the source anyway.
So, who do you trust then in those matters? And are there experts that support your claim?
Don't make me call @Mieshas Taint into this thread to moderate. He rules with an iron fist.
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Shhh! Don't say "fist" he'll get suuuper excited!
you can believe whatever you want. sweeps come from positions, not a scramble transition.
"A sweep, when referred to in the context of ground fighting is a technique used to transition from a neutral or inferior position to a dominant position, such as a practitioner moving from in an opponent's guard to full mount, hence the alternative term 'reversal' as the dominance of positions have been reversed."
he was not in a dominant position, he never had position to begin with, there was no position so therefor, it was a scramble, not a sweep.
its probably the other way around lolDid you stuff your straw man with ad hominems, or the other way around?
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Standing over someone when they are on their back is indeed a dominant position in MMA.
he wasnt "standing over him". unless you mean the 0.0004 of a second he was there. the entire scramble lasted less than 4 seconds, its not like he was thre raining bombs down and Conor got up the fortitude to sweep him.
there was no position to sweep from. they were scrambling. get over it.
#care about names. I already wrote that.
There was a something something, and it was important enough for BJJ and ground-experts to talk about it. So far, so good, right?
So, who is supporting your claim that it was not well done and just something natural and doing it do a Diaz is nothing remarkable and whatnot?
