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Qat

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I understand this is very close to you now, so I get your anger, and I won't respond likewise, I'll remain calm. However, the truth of the matter is, every week there is a terror attack, either a shooting, or a guy stabs some people in a train, or a guy stabs a family because they don't dress as he wants, or some guys go and harass or assault women... Among the countries I listed, my own country, Greece, is also included.

So no, I'm not being funny nor am I being an asshole. But if you want you might be able to explain to me why you think this isn't so.
First of all, you were telling this to an US-American, who lives in a clearly more dangerous environment to most of the countries you listed. That makes it stupid to begin with.

The list of countries is idiotic, Denmark, Switzerland, Iraq? Yeah, you are clearly totally on point with that shit.
At least Austria is safe! ;)

Whatever your feeling and experiences might be, that post was bullshit.

I don't know Qat, but if he's a liberal/anarchist there is now way you'll convinve him or anyone else of his mentality.
I am neither of those things, but I do live in a multicultural district with 30%+ foreigners and probably 60%+ with foreign roots. But that is not new here, its been like that since decades, plenty of Turks and Arabs too, plenty of others, and its fine. Your experiences simply do not match mine.

the fact that the proportion of non muslim crime : muslim crime is like 1:20.
Do you have any numbers on that? For all of the countries you listed? Even for one? (apart from the ME-ones) I doubt it.
I'd rather say you are scared of Muslims as opposed to non-Muslims on a rate of 20:1.

Q @Qat see my post above. Either you're sheltered or delusional. Weed dealers in Stockholm are wearing kevlar now. Wasn't like that ten years ago.
I am indeed sheltered from the circumstances of Swedish dealers, duh.
To you as well: Your experiences simply do not match mine.
 

megatherium

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ohcGIi-y4


Just a few million more and they shall take Europe from the filthy kaffar inshalla. They will succeed where the Turks failed for they face a spiritually empty opponent with neither the will nor the inclination to resist them this time. And once they take it, that is forever theirs.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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I find it hilarious that Americans make fun of the so called islamic invasion of Europe.

Might be a wee elephant in the room fellas..
 

Qat

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Q @Qat there you go, enjoy your multicultural dream.
Oh yes, the vid proves everything!

Still waiting on facts on your 20:1 stuff or explanations on what basis you put every one of these countries into the same group. Why these exactly?
 

stielar

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Oh yes, the vid proves everything!

Still waiting on facts on your 20:1 stuff or explanations on what basis you put every one of these countries into the same group. Why these exactly?
No it's all a conspiracy, nothing happened in Cologne, it was right wingers...or the aliens.

You're megatherium @Harry Rama 's dream European citizen.
 

Qat

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No it's all a conspiracy, nothing happened in Cologne, it was right wingers...or the aliens.

You're megatherium @Harry Rama 's dream European citizen.
You and Galt have made up your mind about that anyway, what do I need to discuss there? The Cologne-shit was awful, and rightfully it has consequences, as it should be.

You are still not providing anything other than pounding singular cases (which is what you accused "the other side" of doing!) :D

So come on, this is getting boring, step up your game.
 

megatherium

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Last time I was smoking the Strawberry Cheescake strain I think I dumped an awful Islamist rant on poor Vutu's website.

Bad news is I started a fresh ounce today!
 

megatherium

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I was reading a few weeks ago about Germany having nearly a half million horses; of course those three million German Turks immediately came to mind. Consider if the local Turks decided to take command of the million or so new Islamic arrivals and seized horses and guns. With their innate military skills and talents for organizing and the apparent savagery of the new arrivals a new breed Islamic horsemen could take shape in Germany. Imagine the terror that might be wrought against the German townspeople by these highly mobile Islamic equestrian raiding parties as they went about seizing food, women, weapons and other prizes at their convenience while living out of mobile tent camps in the German countryside in the manner of their famous Turanid steppe nomad ancestors. I can imagine them quickly carving out ever expanding chunks of Germany for themselves as the Germans abandoned their cities, towns and villages to the vigorous newcomers fleeing for mercy with the clothes on their backs to fortified Christian Poland.

I won't lie, the thought of something like this shaking things up over there excites the hell out of me. And we know something big is coming, we just don't know quite what shape it will take yet.
 

stielar

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You're making a false dichotomy. All of them or none of them. That's not the case
No I'm not.

The George Soros employees whether they are liberal/anarchists, members of government, members of the press, NGOs etc who decided - with a clear goal in mind -to let all these people from all those demolished countries in the middle east, just enter Europe, without any control or any background check.
I've never said that none of the refugees should be allowed in European countries. There are some people who are truly nice kind and harmless, especially people from Syria, the Yazidi people, Kurds and others who have had to run away from sons of bitches like ISIS and extremists.

The right thing to do would be to allow a certain percentage of people that will make it easier for them to adapt to local societies instead of local societies adapting to them. And the ones who would be allowed should pass very strict tests and background checks.

Instead Merkel and co have adopted an all-are-welcome approach no matter what their cultural background is or what they do.

Q @Qat, I can bombard you with "singular cases" - as I predicted you would call them,that's what you've all been conditioned to say - all day long:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2f6rbKavCY



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu--L25S_-M



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y48skO-hInE



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5ZffkA0A



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_TRf6zfAN4



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SK7To4gSr0
 

Leigh

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No I'm not.



I've never said that none of the refugees should be allowed in European countries. There are some people who are truly nice kind and harmless, especially people from Syria, the Yazidi people, Kurds and others who have had to run away from sons of bitches like ISIS and extremists.

The right thing to do would be to allow a certain percentage of people that will make it easier for them to adapt to local societies instead of local societies adapting to them. And the ones who would be allowed should pass very strict tests and background checks.

Instead Merkel and co have adopted an all-are-welcome approach no matter what their cultural background is or what they do.

Q @Qat, I can bombard you with "singular cases" - as I predicted you would call them,that's what you've all been conditioned to say - all day long:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2f6rbKavCY



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu--L25S_-M



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y48skO-hInE



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5ZffkA0A



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_TRf6zfAN4



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SK7To4gSr0
Ok, I can somewhat agree but it's difficult to ethically attach "very strict tests" to bona fide refugees.
 
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The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
  • vote to allow them into the country
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
 

Qat

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Q @Qat, I can bombard you with "singular cases" - as I predicted you would call them,that's what you've all been conditioned to say - all day long
Yeah that's what you seem to be conditioned to, watching youtube vids and adopting a gloomy world view.

And you know very well that I said this because you went on like: "they will give you cases of "white?" people doing bad shit then. Well, and you are giving cases of "non-white" people now. So you are doing exactly what you think of as shit, and we agree on the point that it doesn't lead to much I guess.

I say it again: show me some real numbers that back up your 20:1 claim, and some explanations of why you chose to group the countries that you did. Is it just because you saw a yt-vid of every one of them? Why?

And it will be the last time I ask. You will probably avoid it anyway, which - honestly - kinda proves your post was full of shit.
 

megatherium

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The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
  • vote to allow them into the country
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
You mean, like, kind of the opposite of the way it's worked so far.

*Just imagine a family of Gypsies setting up a tent in, say, Tony Blair's yard LOLOLOL!!!
 

Zeph

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Jan 22, 2015
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The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
  • vote to allow them into the country
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
In the Brexit vote, which very much centred on immigration, there was a direct correlation with areas which have had high immigration voting overwhelmingly for remain, and consequently pro-immigration. It's almost as if living around immigrants removed their fear of then.
 

stielar

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Yeah that's what you seem to be conditioned to, watching youtube vids and adopting a gloomy world view.

And you know very well that I said this because you went on like: "they will give you cases of "white?" people doing bad shit then. Well, and you are giving cases of "non-white" people now. So you are doing exactly what you think of as shit, and we agree on the point that it doesn't lead to much I guess.

I say it again: show me some real numbers that back up your 20:1 claim, and some explanations of why you chose to group the countries that you did. Is it just because you saw a yt-vid of every one of them? Why?

And it will be the last time I ask. You will probably avoid it anyway, which - honestly - kinda proves your post was full of shit.
My 1:20 was of course arbitrary, and in reality the proportion might be even higher for muslims. You say provide me with evidence, I linked to a video abour rape in Norway yet I'm uncertain whether you watched it or decided to not watch it out of principle. It talks about rape statistics.
 

Qat

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Nov 3, 2015
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The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
  • vote to allow them into the country
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
This is quite reasonable. And at least locally I would probably have voted against it, our district is mixed enough I think.

There are some refugees in our district though, even down the street for me, a lot of kids < 10. They like to play table-tennis n stuff.