First of all, you were telling this to an US-American, who lives in a clearly more dangerous environment to most of the countries you listed. That makes it stupid to begin with.I understand this is very close to you now, so I get your anger, and I won't respond likewise, I'll remain calm. However, the truth of the matter is, every week there is a terror attack, either a shooting, or a guy stabs some people in a train, or a guy stabs a family because they don't dress as he wants, or some guys go and harass or assault women... Among the countries I listed, my own country, Greece, is also included.
So no, I'm not being funny nor am I being an asshole. But if you want you might be able to explain to me why you think this isn't so.
I am neither of those things, but I do live in a multicultural district with 30%+ foreigners and probably 60%+ with foreign roots. But that is not new here, its been like that since decades, plenty of Turks and Arabs too, plenty of others, and its fine. Your experiences simply do not match mine.I don't know Qat, but if he's a liberal/anarchist there is now way you'll convinve him or anyone else of his mentality.
Do you have any numbers on that? For all of the countries you listed? Even for one? (apart from the ME-ones) I doubt it.the fact that the proportion of non muslim crime : muslim crime is like 1:20.
I am indeed sheltered from the circumstances of Swedish dealers, duh.Q @Qat see my post above. Either you're sheltered or delusional. Weed dealers in Stockholm are wearing kevlar now. Wasn't like that ten years ago.
With me? Great!What about the experience of german women?
Just a few ,million more and they shall take Europe from the filthy kaffar inshalla. They will succeed where the Turks failed for they face a spiritually empty opponent with neither the will nor the inclination to resist them this time. And once they take it, that is forever theirs.
How was your new year's eve Qat? I heard people in Cologne had a blast:With me? Great!
Seriously though you are doing what Stielar accused anarchists/liberals of doing now, kinda funny.
Q @Qat there you go, enjoy your multicultural dream.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ohcGIi-y4
Just a few million more and they shall take Europe from the filthy kaffar inshalla. They will succeed where the Turks failed for they face a spiritually empty opponent with neither the will nor the inclination to resist them this time. And once they take it, that is forever theirs.
Oh yes, the vid proves everything!Q @Qat there you go, enjoy your multicultural dream.
Wut?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ohcGIi-y4
Just a few million more and they shall take Europe from the filthy kaffar inshalla. They will succeed where the Turks failed for they face a spiritually empty opponent with neither the will nor the inclination to resist them this time. And once they take it, that is forever theirs.
No it's all a conspiracy, nothing happened in Cologne, it was right wingers...or the aliens.Oh yes, the vid proves everything!
Still waiting on facts on your 20:1 stuff or explanations on what basis you put every one of these countries into the same group. Why these exactly?
Sorry Leigh I don't know what got into me now. It seems there's a Takfiri militant inside me struggling to get out.Wut?
You're making a false dichotomy. All of them or none of them. That's not the caseNo it's all a conspiracy, nothing happened in Cologne, it was right wingers...or the aliens.
You're @Harry Rama 's dream European citizen.
You and Galt have made up your mind about that anyway, what do I need to discuss there? The Cologne-shit was awful, and rightfully it has consequences, as it should be.No it's all a conspiracy, nothing happened in Cologne, it was right wingers...or the aliens.
You're @Harry Rama 's dream European citizen.
No I'm not.You're making a false dichotomy. All of them or none of them. That's not the case
I've never said that none of the refugees should be allowed in European countries. There are some people who are truly nice kind and harmless, especially people from Syria, the Yazidi people, Kurds and others who have had to run away from sons of bitches like ISIS and extremists.The George Soros employees whether they are liberal/anarchists, members of government, members of the press, NGOs etc who decided - with a clear goal in mind -to let all these people from all those demolished countries in the middle east, just enter Europe, without any control or any background check.
Ok, I can somewhat agree but it's difficult to ethically attach "very strict tests" to bona fide refugees.No I'm not.
I've never said that none of the refugees should be allowed in European countries. There are some people who are truly nice kind and harmless, especially people from Syria, the Yazidi people, Kurds and others who have had to run away from sons of bitches like ISIS and extremists.
The right thing to do would be to allow a certain percentage of people that will make it easier for them to adapt to local societies instead of local societies adapting to them. And the ones who would be allowed should pass very strict tests and background checks.
Instead Merkel and co have adopted an all-are-welcome approach no matter what their cultural background is or what they do.
Q @Qat, I can bombard you with "singular cases" - as I predicted you would call them,that's what you've all been conditioned to say - all day long:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2f6rbKavCY
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu--L25S_-M
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y48skO-hInE
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5ZffkA0A
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_TRf6zfAN4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SK7To4gSr0
Yeah that's what you seem to be conditioned to, watching youtube vids and adopting a gloomy world view.Q @Qat, I can bombard you with "singular cases" - as I predicted you would call them,that's what you've all been conditioned to say - all day long
You mean, like, kind of the opposite of the way it's worked so far.The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
- vote to allow them into the country
In the Brexit vote, which very much centred on immigration, there was a direct correlation with areas which have had high immigration voting overwhelmingly for remain, and consequently pro-immigration. It's almost as if living around immigrants removed their fear of then.The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
- vote to allow them into the country
My 1:20 was of course arbitrary, and in reality the proportion might be even higher for muslims. You say provide me with evidence, I linked to a video abour rape in Norway yet I'm uncertain whether you watched it or decided to not watch it out of principle. It talks about rape statistics.Yeah that's what you seem to be conditioned to, watching youtube vids and adopting a gloomy world view.
And you know very well that I said this because you went on like: "they will give you cases of "white?" people doing bad shit then. Well, and you are giving cases of "non-white" people now. So you are doing exactly what you think of as shit, and we agree on the point that it doesn't lead to much I guess.
I say it again: show me some real numbers that back up your 20:1 claim, and some explanations of why you chose to group the countries that you did. Is it just because you saw a yt-vid of every one of them? Why?
And it will be the last time I ask. You will probably avoid it anyway, which - honestly - kinda proves your post was full of shit.
This is quite reasonable. And at least locally I would probably have voted against it, our district is mixed enough I think.The only fair way to solve the refugee situation is simple and as follows.
The people will have a referendum vote on the issue. Those who will live among refugees are the people who:
You want refugees allowed in? Fine then, it's your ass who has to live with them. Why should the people who are opposed to it have it put on them to make it work? If someone is against it then they should not have the responsibility to make it work. Financial penalties will be paid by those who "flee" the option they vote for. In this day and age, the technology exists to make this happen.
- vote to allow them into the country