Something like this should be feasible! We can put a man on the moon, after all...(or can we?? lol). The cyclops machine changed tennis forever, and afaik for the better. Combat sports are a different beast, though. Lots of practical difficulties to surmount.
Yep. It definitely sucks. He will make the other guy foolish here and there, but he doesn't hang around long enough to capitalize. He's basically boxing by amateur rules, where all punches matters equally so long as they land clean.
Hmm. Well, every solution has its drawbacks. I hate to make fights a cardio contest any more than they already are. Then you have the broadcasting problems that come with endless rounds---8 hour PPV's and all that. This is one of those ancient debates though. Penalties for non-engagement (a la Pride) seem to me the best practical decision. But in the end, you can't force a person to fight in a crowd-pleasing way. There is always a way to circumvent the rules.
Great points. Hard heads and bleeders make things very complicated. Of course, if you have a good, clear camera angle, then counting a hard shot isn't so difficult. But it's those less-than-great angles that make the hard-head factor a real problem. Often it's only in the replays that you see that one guy got nailed.
30 seconds in you can see it counting shots that didn't even land or are clearly deflected. But other than that you can just watch the fight. The first night I watched it I didn't think it was possible to give Manny more than 2 rounds. I watched it again after the weekend and I think you could give many 4...but that's it. Every credible boxing expert gave scores within the range I just mentioned. It really wasn't a hard of a fight to score. Boxing is based on clean effective punching. Then you can dip into Ring Generalship and any subset category. Mayweather dominated. He controlled the range, tempo, and broke all of Manny's 5-6 punch combinations usually with in his first two. Harold Lederman loves Manny...Jim Lampley loves Manny and they couldn't say anything.
I want video footage of the guy in charge of the clicker. It's probably somebody half-drunk and not paying a ton of attention. Who knows though. Compubox has this odd Wizard of Oz mythology connected to it IMO. Who is the guy at the button? Where is he?
oh i probably should have clarified. When i say roundless i mean 25 straight minutes with no rounds inbetween for championship fights and 15 minutes straight for normal fights. Not unlimited time or anything.
I wonder what angles Judges get to see on their monitor. Is it a split screen with 4 angles on it? or just the one angle we see at home.
Yeah the winner to me doesnt matter as I found the fight super boring and could care less. But i think what i found interesting was the compubox numbers. I dont think Mayweather is landing that many punches. He maybe be landing more but the compubox number seem made up. In slow mo Mayweather punches arent landed as much as compubox wants people to believe. but they know hardly any fight would ever be watched in slow mo because its so boring so it would be tough to disagree.
it might not even be a human. maybe some parrot that pecks at a button everytime it hears a punch.
Gotcha. Well, no surprise cardio-king GSP supports the idea. I take it that (on your view) a single 25/15 minute round will help the judges score the fight "as a whole", as people like to say? If so I agree with the concept. But this could be accomplished by different scoring criteria. Like in your example above, we want to eliminate these cases where a guy wins round 1 by 15 punches, then loses the next by 2, and the final one by 2, thereby losing the fight 10-9/9-10/9-10. Supposing (for convenience) all punches are similarly hard and clean, this isn't a fair result. So a single, long round would eliminate that.
LOL. Yes. A woodpecker with a wooden button maybe.
Aren't they watching mainly by putting eyes directly on the fighters? I suppose they would each have multiple monitors. I know I've seen footage (maybe pics) of Rogan at his commentator's table with at least one monitor there. Not sure what judges have though, either in boxing or MMA.
Compubox is done the night of the fight live, its human so its never accurate.
Where is the actual person, though, and what are the circumstances? At ringside? Watching multiple monitors remotely? Just one person?
Back in the day...and this was a while ago they used to have one person clicking for one corner and one clicking for the other watching from monitors. You can see how unreliable this might be. They may have a totally different system now. But anything with live updates during the fight will never be 100%.
yeah im thinking the judges dont sit together. I think they are spread apart. So when the fighters are in their blindspot on the other side of the cage with their backs to the judge, the judges probably look at the monitors to what is going on. im hoping they have multiple angles when things get tight.
