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BeardOfKnowledge

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Simply because you can point to a virtue existed in the bible does not necessarily mean that the virtue originated in the bible and wouldn't exist if not for the bible
Fully agree.

the concept itself implies that we should not base its adoption on its being biblical.
Why is that? If the primary lesson of the bible is tolerance and acceptance of those different from yourself. Those who founded our societies who were religious people apparently thought this tolerance of others was important enough that it needed to be put into the constitutions of all of those nations.

I don't think a belief system that indicates that all non-believers will go to hell can really boast a belief in religious freedom.
When did that happen?
 
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Not sure how the discussion got here but can we stop with the fucking Jesus bullshit?

Ffs his bitch ass died almost 2000 years ago. Get over it.
 

Truck Party

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since you guys are discussing religious freedom, this one will be a real challenge to it Religious defense planned in landmark Detroit genital mutilation case

Defense lawyers plan to argue that religious freedom is at the core of the case in which two physicians and one of their wives are charged with subjecting young girls to genital cutting. All three are members of the Dawoodi Bohra, a small Indian-Muslim sect that has a mosque in Farmington Hills.

The defense maintains that the doctors weren't engaged in any actual cutting -- just a scraping of the genitalia -- and that the three defendants are being persecuted for practicing their religion by a culture and society that doesn't understand their beliefs and is misinterpreting what they did.

First Amendment scholars across the country -- liberal and conservative alike-- are closely following the case, noting that the fate of the accused will largely rest with scientific evidence.

The key question for jurors to answer will be: Were children harmed physically? If they were, experts say, the religious freedom defense doesn't stand a chance.

But if the defense can show that it was just a nick and caused no harm, some experts believe, the defendants could be acquitted on religious grounds.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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since you guys are discussing religious freedom, this one will be a real challenge to it Religious defense planned in landmark Detroit genital mutilation case

Defense lawyers plan to argue that religious freedom is at the core of the case in which two physicians and one of their wives are charged with subjecting young girls to genital cutting. All three are members of the Dawoodi Bohra, a small Indian-Muslim sect that has a mosque in Farmington Hills.

The defense maintains that the doctors weren't engaged in any actual cutting -- just a scraping of the genitalia -- and that the three defendants are being persecuted for practicing their religion by a culture and society that doesn't understand their beliefs and is misinterpreting what they did.

First Amendment scholars across the country -- liberal and conservative alike-- are closely following the case, noting that the fate of the accused will largely rest with scientific evidence.

The key question for jurors to answer will be: Were children harmed physically? If they were, experts say, the religious freedom defense doesn't stand a chance.

But if the defense can show that it was just a nick and caused no harm, some experts believe, the defendants could be acquitted on religious grounds.
Religious freedom doesn't negate physically harming other people. Male circumcision should also be banned in recognition of what it is, pointless genital mutilation.
 

seekntruth

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Religious freedom doesn't negate physically harming other people. Male circumcision should also be banned in recognition of what it is, pointless genital mutilation.
Fuck man, I love my cut cock...you know how many compliments I get on it...I literally got one within the last 20 minutes.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Fuck man, I love my cut cock...you know how many compliments I get on it...I literally got one within the last 20 minutes.
That's great.

It's still immensely fucked up that the moment you were born your parents looked down and said "You know how we improve this kid? Cut the end of his dick off."
 

seekntruth

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That's great.

It's still immensely fucked up that the moment you were born your parents looked down and said "You know how we improve this kid? Cut the end of his dick off."
Nah they just trimmed the skirt...its gotta be better than the alternative.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Why is that? If the primary lesson of the bible is tolerance and acceptance of those different from yourself. Those who founded our societies who were religious people apparently thought this tolerance of others was important enough that it needed to be put into the constitutions of all of those nations.
They did this based on real-world governing utility. We don't know that they did it based on what the bible said. They were religious men, but with the type of nation they were trying to build after living in what they perceived as tyranny in England it's kind of obvious that they'd go with religious tolerance.
When did that happen?
Are you saying that the bible doesn't say that non-believers go to hell? The book as a whole isn't too keen on understanding that some people won't agree. It calls for faith in itself. The basis of the religion is that we are fallen as a species and the only way to be saved is through god. Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins, and without that happening we would have been damned for eternity. Our souls are saved through faith in the Christian god, according to the bible. It's pretty clear, in my opinion. I'm interested in your take though. I'm all for hearing dissenting opinions.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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They did this based on real-world governing utility.
In America they did it based on what they were used to living under during British rule. The British constitution was written by their king who (according to them) was appointed by God himself.

The basis of the religion is that we are fallen as a species and the only way to be saved is through god.
That's incorrect. That's what's preached by (typically American) fundamentalists. According to the Vatican anyone can get into heaven as long as they aren't a piece of shit. Yes, even atheists.
 

Team Bisping

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The terror attack occurred in a country that left the Church founded by Jesus so that its leader could get divorced and marry his side piece.
that's a pretty good summary of Henry VIII's relationship with the catholic church, though I thought peter started the catholic church?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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that's a pretty good summary of Henry VIII's relationship with the catholic church, though I thought peter started the catholic church?
Correct*. First Pope as appointed by the Cheezits.


*as correct as any of this can be considered
 

KWingJitsu

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If this is true then why is the Canadian PM such a fucking fag?

Lizzy isn't quote doing God's work it appears...
That 'complete fag' can whoop any world leader in one-on-one combat.
Possible exception of Putin - but only if he gets the (judo) clinch without getting boxed up.