General CNN doxxes meme maker, threatens if he doesn't maintain apology

[Zeph]

Every time my account is frozen that's censorship and a violation of my first amendment rights

good luck in court

 

[SongExotic2]

good luck in court

He doesn't need court anymore.


He's back on team prince

 

[Gay For Longo]

Freedom of speech does not guarantee anonymity. No one is suggesting this man should be locked up. I really have no problem with his CNN meme, I don't know why you think I do. I believe you are conflating two issues, freedom of speech and the right to privacy.

The issue here seems to be that this man highlighted himself by claiming responsibility for the original meme, but a cursory look through his posting history revealed some vile posts, even one meme specificly targeting CNN and Jews that work there. At that point, do you believe he has an unalienable right to privacy, despite posting things which infringe upon other's liberty?

So if one of us disagrees with or takes offense to something that you post it's cool if we doxx you?
What the fuck?
Are you serious?

 

[megatherium]

I've had a think about this before posting how I feel about this situation, as many of you know I take privacy seriously, and believe that it should be a right that is protected by web sites and users alike. However, I don't believe any person has an unalienable right to privacy. For instance if someone made threats against someone's life, then it would be prudent for a website, or even an inquisitive user, to provide the proper authorities with as much information as they can provide.

While at the same time websites should foster the environment, through anti-doxing and privacy rules, that anyone who acts within normal decency should be afforded what protections they have against having their personal information revealed against their will. Yet, the quandary here in this case is the user in question is clearly inciting hatred with some of his posts and memes, should he be afforded the same protections as an average user?

My thoughts seem to suggest that once you are infringing on another group or person's liberty, such as the aforementioned murder threat, or posting anti-Semitic memes, then you have forfeited any personal decency rights about protection of privacy owed to you by websites or other users. Although, If anyone has a strong argument for why it shouldn't be this way then I'd be happy to hear it.

My first thought is that they should save the dirt they're evidently already busy digging up on this kid for trial because I don't think this will remain restricted to the court of public opinion for too long. They should forget about winning over the public on this one, that horse has left the barn I'm afraid. It is funny though how fast they rediscover their investigative skills as soon as their own necks are on the line.It's a shame we didn't see some of this during the recent sarin gas fugazi and subsequent bombing of the Syrian airfield?

 

[Gay For Longo]

No one is stopping this man from saying what he wants.

Umm, what?
Go ahead and say what you want but we'll doxx you for it, could likely lead to stopping him from expressing himself

 

[Zeph]

So if one of us disagrees with or takes offense to something that you post it's cool if we doxx you?
What the fuck?
Are you serious?

I think you'd have to show how it's in the public interest to know who I am because of my posts, and show that the posts in question were of a sufficient level to justify it. It's definitely a grey area.

 

[Zeph]

Umm, what?
Go ahead and say what you want but we'll doxx you for it, could likely lead to stopping him from expressing himself

So he deserves anonymity to create an environment that fosters hatred of CNN employees due to their race?

 

[megatherium]

It was a fifteen year old boy posting a pro wrestling ,meme. You'd have to be pretty creepy to want his address I would think.

 

[Zeph]

It was a fifteen year old boy posting a pro wrestling ,meme. You'd have to be pretty creepy to want his address I would think.

That's what 4chan is claiming. Yet in his posting history he claimed to have a concealed carry license, and was a vet. Forgive me for not trusting 4chan completely.

 

[Gay For Longo]

I think you'd have to show how it's in the public interest to know who I am because of my posts, and show that the posts in question were of a sufficient level to justify it. It's definitely a grey area.

Alright, I actually like that
Now can you explain how his identity should be of public interest?
If CNN did go through with their threat, it would be for no other reason than vengeance

 

[megatherium]

I just realized you couldn't see Captain Janeway's face in my avatar.

Fixed

 

[megatherium]

That's what 4chan is claiming. Yet in his posting history he claimed to have a concealed carry license, and was a vet. Forgive me for not trusting 4chan completely.

i've seen others including a US congressman comment as to his age. I thought it was settled fact. I could be wrong?

 

[Gay For Longo]

So he deserves anonymity to create an environment that fosters hatred of CNN employees due to their race?

Imo everyone is entitled to their freedom of privacy whether I agree with them or not
Also, I think everybody should be entitle to express their opinions hateful or not
I don't agree with his apparent views, but I don't give a fuck who he is, I'd debate with him the same I would if he were anybody else with those views

 

[Zeph]

Alright, I actually like that
Now can you explain how his identity should be of public interest?
If CNN did go through with their threat, it would be for no other reason than vengeance

When Trump used this man's work on twitter, and then this man claimed responsibility he put himself in interest. Then his past history of racist attacks against CNN also become of interest.

 

[Gay For Longo]

That's what 4chan is claiming. Yet in his posting history he claimed to have a concealed carry license, and was a vet. Forgive me for not trusting 4chan completely.

He also claimed he was a teen when an incident happened in 1990
Many people online that are young pretend to be older

I'm not sure 1 way or the other but I do know people have hacked into his personal Facebook and claim he is 15

 

[Zeph]

i've seen others including a US congressman comment as to his age. I thought it was settled fact. I could be wrong?

Business Times reported on his previous posts which claimed he had a concealed carry license, and was a vet. Only 4chan, who claimed to have also doxed this user, claims he is a 15 year old.

 

[Zeph]

He also claimed he was a teen when an incident happened in 1990
Many people online that are young pretend to be older

I'm not sure 1 way or the other but I do know people have hacked into his personal Facebook and claim he is 15

Yeah, it's why I've been careful to say his posts claimed. I don't know one way or the other, but I am wary of trusting information from 4chan, because it's essentially a lot people trolling each other, with occasionally real information being involved.

 

[Gay For Longo]

When Trump used this man's work on twitter, and then this man claimed responsibility he put himself in interest. Then his past history of racist attacks against CNN also become of interest.

Decent but I don't think that puts his identity in the public interest, it would mean his work is of public interest
His privacy should still be maintained imo

The big thing is the blackmail imo
They may have broke a federal law man

 

[megatherium]

Business Times reported on his previous posts which claimed he had a concealed carry license, and was a vet. Only 4chan, who claimed to have also doxed this user, claims he is a 15 year old.

So he was fronting as a tough guy on the internet eh. Sounds like a kid to me. If he is an adult I guess that means CNN is in slightly less hot water though. We're likely to know quite soon I think.

 

[Gay For Longo]

Yeah, it's why I've been careful to say his posts claimed. I don't know one way or the other, but I am wary of trusting information from 4chan, because it's essentially a lot people trolling each other, with occasionally real information being involved.

Yep, always best to be safe until you can vet the info yourself

 

[Zeph]

Decent but I don't think that puts his identity in the public interest, it would mean his work is of public interest
His privacy should still be maintained imo

The big thing is the blackmail imo
They may have broke a federal law man

There definitely seems to be a hint of blackmail. I think CNN will get away with it because they claim there was no actual deal made. If there was a deal made, and that guy can prove it, they might be in trouble.

 

[megatherium]

There definitely seems to be a hint of blackmail. I think CNN will get away with it because they claim there was no actual deal made. If there was a deal made, and that guy can prove it, they might be in trouble.

I agree with this. CNN may be bullet proof. They are a very important organization. Very useful.

 

[Gay For Longo]

There definitely seems to be a hint of blackmail. I think CNN will get away with it because they claim there was no actual deal made. If there was a deal made, and that guy can prove it, they might be in trouble.

Ya I don't think they'll face any real charges or anything but their public opinion will be at an all time low after this

 

[megatherium]

Ya I don't think they'll face any real charges or anything but their public opinion will be at an all time low after this

They enjoy favorable placement on the cable dial in every western country including mine despite their horrible standards and poor ratings. You have to believe somebody likes them up there.

 

[Gay For Longo]

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