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John Lee Pettimore

John Lee Pettimore

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
He killed his grandmother, tweeted about it, and no one noticed. Good thing it wasn't COVID misinformation or the jig would have been up.
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* He didn't kill his grandmother, she remains alive in critical condition.

* He didn't tweet anything, he sent a couple of private messages over Facebook to a girl in Germany who he'd never met and barely interacted with online.

* What's that about misinformation?

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Splinty said:
He didn't tweet until immediately before going to commit the act.
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I had heard he tweeted both before and after.

Edit: Apparently he was Facebook messaging before each step. Either way, it should have been noticed. Unless of course Facebook is about to pretend they don't read private messages.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge said:
I had heard he tweeted both before and after.

Edit: Apparently he was Facebook messaging before each step. Either way, it should have been noticed. Unless of course Facebook is about to pretend they don't read private messages.
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He messaged a bunch of people on snap, Instagram, and yubo making references. He showed off his guns. He went as far as telling somebody that he would tell them a secret the day that the shooting happened. But there was nothing concrete in those messages or in his public posting until right before he was on the way.

But on the other hand, multiple students say he was a weirdo, an outcast bully that everybody thought was a loser, and there are stories from other students saying that he's known to kill animals.

I think that him being a weirdo and then obsessing about guns would have been enough for somebody to escalate a report if there was actually any mechanism to follow up on that. But there really isn't.

Probably only the other student statements about killing animals would hold any water on reports. But that's also one of those things that one student might actually know is true and all the other students just heard as is commonplace in high school with the weird kid.
 
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The best message was the European girl telling him that guns are boring.

And him saying, "no"


Fucking incel to the end.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Splinty said:
He messaged a bunch of people on snap, Instagram, and yubo making references. He showed off his guns. He went as far as telling somebody that he would tell them a secret the day that the shooting happened. But there was nothing concrete in those messages or in his public posting until right before he was on the way.

But on the other hand, multiple students say he was a weirdo, an outcast bully that everybody thought was a loser, and there are stories from other students saying that he's known to kill animals.

I think that him being a weirdo and then obsessing about guns would have been enough for somebody to escalate a report if there was actually any mechanism to follow up on that. But there really isn't.

Probably only the other student statements about killing animals would hold any water on reports. But that's also one of those things that one student might actually know is true and all the other students just heard as is commonplace in high school with the weird kid.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think we're all being pretty naive to pretend Facebook isn't dragging every conversation that comes across their platform, public or private. You'd think "I'm going to shoot my grandmother" might cause a flag to pop up.
 
John Lee Pettimore

John Lee Pettimore

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
I understand where you're coming from, but I think we're all being pretty naive to pretend Facebook isn't dragging every conversation that comes across their platform, public or private. You'd think "I'm going to shoot my grandmother" might cause a flag to pop up.
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So what's the ideal outcome here?

Random kid makes a threat via private message to another teenager who he's never met, barely ever communicated with, and who lives three continents away.

So what now? What course of action gets you to say literally anything other than "waaah, everybody is corrupt and stupid and incompetent"?

What exactly should Facebook have done here?

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
I understand where you're coming from, but I think we're all being pretty naive to pretend Facebook isn't dragging every conversation that comes across their platform, public or private. You'd think "I'm going to shoot my grandmother" might cause a flag to pop up.
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Such messages do seem like they should be flagged instantly by the AI
 
Shinkicker

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An 18 year old wanting to borrow money, even $300, from a bank has to have a parent co-sign.

An 18 year old has to buy a fucking fishing license, ffs.

You have to pass a test to ride a motorcycle, drive a boat, or drive a car. And a special license to drive a bus or semi, both of which include training.

No co-signer and no license for a gun.


Ok John Lee Pettimore @John Lee Pettimore , you are correct. It is bizarre.
 
Shinkicker

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My children can stay on my insurance until they are 26 now.

(Wtf? Now I look like an asshole for not wanting to pay their insurance for 8 more damn years. Thanks, Obama.)

Anyway, yeah, so I have to continue paying for them. I would love for the government to pass a law requiring a parent to co-sign for the purchase of a gun, any gun, until they are 26 and off my fucking insurance.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Shinkicker said:
An 18 year old wanting to borrow money, even $300, from a bank has to have a parent co-sign.

An 18 year old has to buy a fucking fishing license, ffs.

You have to pass a test to ride a motorcycle, drive a boat, or drive a car. And a special license to drive a bus or semi, both of which include training.

No co-signer and no license for a gun.


Ok John Lee Pettimore @John Lee Pettimore , you are correct. It is bizarre.
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I think it'd be reasonable to say "In order to possess a firearm you require a license, and that the qualifications for that license are that you're 18 years of age, and able to pass a background check."
 
Shinkicker

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You want to let them be minors until age 26?

They get to go to college. Parents still pay all the bills: car insurance, gas, food, health insurance, cell phone bill, etc.

I should be allowed to continue being their boss.
 
Filthy

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Shinkicker said:
An 18 year old wanting to borrow money, even $300, from a bank has to have a parent co-sign.

An 18 year old has to buy a fucking fishing license, ffs.

You have to pass a test to ride a motorcycle, drive a boat, or drive a car. And a special license to drive a bus or semi, both of which include training.

No co-signer and no license for a gun.


Ok John Lee Pettimore @John Lee Pettimore , you are correct. It is bizarre.
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Because the right to defend yourself is a natural right.
 
Shinkicker

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
I think it'd be reasonable to say "In order to possess a firearm you require a license, and that the qualifications for that license are that you're 18 years of age, and able to pass a background check."
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And have a parent co-sign until you are 26.
 
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