- Nov 17, 2021
The two sides talked. I’m not 100 percent sure if Cincinnati was ever serious about trading the pick, especially being Burrow was coming off such a historic season and had Ohio roots, but I know they at least discussed trade.I did not know that Flo wanted Herbert. Also it was my understanding that Cincinnati wasn't going to trade that #1 pick for anything. Were there discussions about them trading down?
Sadly, a lot of Miami fans wouldn’t even LISTEN to the name Justin Herbert in 2020 prior to the draft. It’s almost absurd how irrational they were. So many stupidly typecast him as a “shitty version of Tannehill” (which isn’t close to accurate but it’s funny because those same people bitch that the team should have picked Herbert and “let a great QB go when they dropped Tannehill.. it’s hilarious really), and pulled the “I’ll boycott the team if we pass on Tua for him” grandstanding gibberish. They ignored what numbers Herbert put up, how productive and big play he was, despite playing for three different head coaches, and three different offensive coordinators, each who had three drastically different offensive philosophies when he was at Oregon, which shows he could adapt to anything. My only concern about him was he too had some injury issues. Hindsight I guess.[/QUOTE]Here are Burrow and Herbert's 2022 stats, respectively:
YDS TD INT Rating
4,611 34 14 108.3
4,631 35 14 99.5
So in hindsight I would say that not giving Cincy a treasure chest of picks and whatever else was prob a good decision. Not drafting Herbert, obviously, was not.
They have very short shelf lives. Todd Gurley is out of football. He’s 27. Christian McCaffery and Saquon Barkley are really looking shaky. Even Ezekiel Elliott looks like a shell of what he was, and he had ten TD. Le’Veon Bell is completely washed up. None of them have reached the age of 30. It’s a tough call, because a good halfback can make a good team much better, see Tennessee. However, their shelf lives are guaranteed to be short and limited. [/QUOTE]RBs are tricky. They get injured a lot and don't have longevity. Just look at some of our RBs considered good either for us or other teams over the last few years:
Jay Ajayi: retired (28 years old)
Lamar Miller: has played for 6 different teams since he left the Dolphins, mostly because of an injury he suffered that kept him out of theentire 2019 season.
Kenyan Drake: mediocre at best both with us and with other teams. Overvalued imo.
And ascending upward. I think 50 million over 6 should do it.Going to be expensive but I agree. He's a top 5 TE imo.
Hyde and Omar are much from the same cloth. They look too much at the grass from other people’s lawns. Waddle was really good this year. Put him on Cincinnati, he does what Chase did.Agree and this is where I disagreed with Hyde implying Waddle isn't a playmaker like Jamarr Chase or Kyle Pitts. One, Pitts is a TE and we already have a good TE. Two, I don't think anyone can say that Jamarr Chase is better than Jaylen Waddle or vice-versa. Waddle has more receptions and Chase has more yards. Chase also has a QB with a decent offensive line. Waddle was forced to make a lot of short receptions because Tua was constantly under pressure.
Agree on most of this, but man Grier is on so many strikes and foul tips that I lost track. Dude massively bombed on his first two drafts. He made so many shit trades, free agent signings and draft picks.Parker has a ton of talent and is great because of his size, but the guy gets injured by a fucking errant gust of wind. Cut him.
Taking Will Fuller despite having full knowledge of his history on IR should be strike 2 at least for Grier, with strike 1 being the Tua over Herbert pick.
Valid. Buffalo stomped their ass too.Looked great against shit teams. Gave up 45 to Tampa Bay and 34 to Tennessee. Like our win streak, the defense is likely very over-inflated.