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Lord Vutulaki

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i.e. if it's not from here then it must be magical and misunderstood at the same time. Enter liberal arts chick with her far-fetched fantasies pretending and preaching it's anything but that.
I dont think anyone actually thinks that.

Give us some example Polska
 
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I dont think anyone actually thinks that.
You're wrong.
Give us some example Polska
Everything would be anecdotal and I'm not going to waste our time by referring back to ever white chick I've met or heard of.....wait there was that one broad who got raped by some black dude in Haiti (I think) while doing some charity or volunteer work and still managed to blame it on white guys. There are plenty of these types around, you can find them yourself.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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You're wrong.

Everything would be anecdotal and I'm not going to waste our time by referring back to ever white chick I've met or heard of.....wait there was that one broad who got raped by some black dude in Haiti (I think) while doing some charity or volunteer work and still managed to blame it on white guys. There are plenty of these types around, you can find them yourself.
HAHAHA fair enough where do you live at the moment?
 

Leigh

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Neither do I but when you get enough of these people together, as I described above, then they discourage any criticism and things get f'n stupid. When people are discouraged from being honest and open about what they think then we're going to see conflict simmer to the top.
Sure but that's not an argument against multiculturalism. If anything, it's a criticism against a particular native culture (white women who like foreign cock and won't tolerate criticism).
 
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Sure but that's not an argument against multiculturalism. If anything, it's a criticism against a particular native culture (white women who like foreign cock and won't tolerate criticism).
You'd be right if the current expression of multiculturalism encouraged openness and honesty but it doesn't. It allows two platforms: racism or political correctness. Oddly enough, both platforms are racist and discriminatory and push some good guy vs bad guy narrative.
 

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You'd be right if the current expression of multiculturalism encouraged openness and honesty but it doesn't. It allows two platforms: racism or political correctness. Oddly enough, both platforms are racist and discriminatory and push some good guy vs bad guy narrative.
That's a false dichotomy. There are plenty of people who subscribe to neither. However, I think you're confusing political correctness with extreme liberalism.

In any case, opposing multiculturalism on the basis that Canadians don't know how to deal with foreigners is absurd.
 

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Are they not 1 in the same?
LOL

But seriously, there is a difference between a sensible position and extremism.

Don't call people "nigger" - sensible.
Open borders and 100% millionaire tax - extremist

"Political correctness gone mad" is a term that a lot of people use to justify being assholes.
 
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That's a false dichotomy. There are plenty of people who subscribe to neither. However, I think you're confusing political correctness with extreme liberalism.
I agree there are plenty of people who subscribe to neither but the media doesn't really give those people a lot of air time. You're either with us or against us, you're either a feminist or a member of the patriarchy, either a racist or a progressive. Political correctness is a slippery slope and people with an agenda took the reins on that one a while back.
In any case, opposing multiculturalism on the basis that Canadians don't know how to deal with foreigners is absurd.
I'm in favour of a multiethnic society with a prevailing culture. Canada's prevailing culture is more and more becoming simply a consumer culture supported by hockey and the f'n cold.
 

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I agree there are plenty of people who subscribe to neither but the media doesn't really give those people a lot of air time. You're either with us or against us, you're either a feminist or a member of the patriarchy, either a racist or a progressive. Political correctness is a slippery slope and people with an agenda took the reins on that one a while back.

I'm in favour of a multiethnic society with a prevailing culture. Canada's prevailing culture is more and more becoming simply a consumer culture supported by hockey and the f'n cold.
Political correctness is not a slippery slope, any more than any other movement. Some people become extreme but most don't. Just to clarify in case you are unsure, political correctness is a good thing.

With regards to your position, you cannot create or force a culture. People will behave as they like and the best you can do is try to label it. Even amongst white Canadians there are numerous cultures. Some like hockey, as you've mentioned. Some like to drink. Some like art. Some like guns.

As I said previously, have some sensible laws and enforce them. Don't ban a culture, ban behaviour. And don't be tolerant of criminal behaviour due to "cultural differences".
 
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Political correctness is not a slippery slope, any more than any other movement. Some people become extreme but most don't. Just to clarify in case you are unsure, political correctness is a good thing.
I'm sure about it and you're dead wrong. Political correctness is not a good thing, being a decent human being is and it doesn't need any other label than that. When we give it this retarded term then we retard social discourse and that is a slippery slope my friend. If you were to take a look around, you'd have seen this SJW phenomenon that's sprung up, you'd have noticed the new definition of rape that has now become accepted, you'd have noticed double standards in things that matter and equity in trivial bullshit that appeases those who shout the loudest. Nobody benefits in the long run when we ignore how these things have become part of the norm.
With regards to your position, you cannot create or force a culture.
That depends on how you understand what it means to "create or force a culture." What do you mean by that?
As I understand it, I 100% disagree with you. As I understand it, culture is most definitely created and sometimes it is forced e.g. nazism, communism north korea style. While it's true some things do happen organically, some things most definitely are part of an agenda. When people encourage or discourage certain behaviours until they become norms then I consider that akin to creating or forcing culture.
Don't ban a culture, ban behaviour.
Totally agree with you, the problem is there is slipper slope called p.c. culture and a lot sketchy behaviour gets tolerated because someone says it's offensive to question things that should be questioned.
 

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I'm sure about it and you're dead wrong. Political correctness is not a good thing, being a decent human being is and it doesn't need any other label than that. When we give it this retarded term then we retard social discourse and that is a slippery slope my friend. If you were to take a look around, you'd have seen this SJW phenomenon that's sprung up, you'd have noticed the new definition of rape that has now become accepted, you'd have noticed double standards in things that matter and equity in trivial bullshit that appeases those who shout the loudest. Nobody benefits in the long run when we ignore how these things have become part of the norm.

That depends on how you understand what it means to "create or force a culture." What do you mean by that?
As I understand it, I 100% disagree with you. As I understand it, culture is most definitely created and sometimes it is forced e.g. nazism, communism north korea style. While it's true some things do happen organically, some things most definitely are part of an agenda. When people encourage or discourage certain behaviours until they become norms then I consider that akin to creating or forcing culture.

Totally agree with you, the problem is there is slipper slope called p.c. culture and a lot sketchy behaviour gets tolerated because someone says it's offensive to question things that should be questioned.
It is only a "slippery slope" if you are devoid of rational thought. The exact same could be same of criticising immigrants. "It's a slippery slope, soon everyone will be banned". It's simple scare mongering to oppose a reasonable idea (immigrants from different cultures) based on the idea that some extremists might want special rights.
 
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It is only a "slippery slope" if you are devoid of rational thought.
If you're suggesting one of us is then shame on you, if you're suggesting the general populace isn't then shame on you.
 

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If you're suggesting one of us is then shame on you, if you're suggesting the general populace isn't then shame on you.
I'm not suggesting you are but I am suggesting the general populace isn't. Of course some people are but people are generally decent.

From reading your posts, it sounds like your position is that only one culture should exist in Canada, which is Hockey lovers, and anyone from a different culture isn't welcome, mainly because white women prefer foreign men and won't tolerate criticism against them. It's pretty baffling.

If you're so against multiculturalism, how would you handle people from different cultures who are already in Canada?
 
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From reading your posts, it sounds like your position is that only one culture should exist in Canada, which is Hockey lovers, and anyone from a different culture isn't welcome,
Where the hell did you get the word "should" from?
If you're so against multiculturalism, how would you handle people from different cultures who are already in Canada?
It sounds like this and a lot of the arguments you were fielding have been based on a false premise. I am for a multiethnic society in the long run as opposed to a multicultural one. obviously they are inter-related over time but a cohesive culture is desirable in terms of a nation or community, company or even a sports team.
 
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Disciplined Galt

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LOL

But seriously, there is a difference between a sensible position and extremism.

Don't call people "nigger" - sensible.
Open borders and 100% millionaire tax - extremist

"Political correctness gone mad" is a term that a lot of people use to justify being assholes.

Shit, I think I do one of those and advocate the other almost all of the time in person. I'm trying to be moderate for you guys here. I have to say though Leigh @Leigh I think there should be three types of punishment dealt out by the state - Death and Torture, Death, Exile.
 

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Where the hell did you get the word "should" from?
From this statement (point of interest bolded):

"I'm in favour of a multiethnic society with A prevailing culture. Canada's prevailing culture is more and more becoming simply a consumer culture supported by hockey and the f'n cold."

This reads to me as if you want one culture, which is currently hockey.
 
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This reads to me as if you want one culture, which is currently hockey.
I'd re-evaluate your interpretation of that one :clapperboard:
That last sentence was just an observation on what's been happening over the years i.e. people come with their traditions, etc, but as the years go by, they become less strong. The main problem is there isn't much for them to grab onto except consumerism
 

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I'd re-evaluate your interpretation of that one :clapperboard:
That last sentence was just an observation on what's been happening over the years i.e. people come with their traditions, etc, but as the years go by, they become less strong. The main problem is there isn't much for them to grab onto except consumerism
So you don't support one prevailing culture?
 
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So you don't support one prevailing culture?
Not one that is basically just hockey, the cold and buying stuff, there should be more commonality binding people together, there should be more common experiences that people can relate to. Don't tell yourself I'm against diversity, it is unquestionably healthy and desirable, that being said, so is a healthy, unifying culture.
 

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Not one that is basically just hockey, the cold and buying stuff, there should be more commonality binding people together, there should be more common experiences that people can relate to. Don't tell yourself I'm against diversity, it is unquestionably healthy and desirable, that being said, so is a healthy, unifying culture.
I'm not trying to catch you out or misrepresent your point, you quoted me and made a statement and I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to say.

So from this post, it appears you ARE for a single culture but only one you approve of. Is that correct?