Society Car plows into antifa during white nationalist protest of statue being removed

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Freeloading Rusty

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Almost like there's a double standard?
Uh, no it would be the opposite.

Obama got called out for not saying radical Islam.

Trump got called out for not saying white supremacists.

Both fucks got slagged for the same shit based off their 'assumed race/ethnicity/religion'.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Uh, no it would be the opposite.

Obama got called out for not saying radical Islam.

Trump got called out for not saying white supremacists.

Both fucks got slagged for the same shit based off their 'assumed race/ethnicity/religion'.
One was slagged by Fox, the other CNN.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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jason73

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Trump condemns hate and violence but the left isnt happy that he pointed the finger at both sides and not just the right.typical leftist hypocrisy
 

Lukewarm Carl

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The way the media has been going on with that shit reminds me of the whole Obama wont say radical Islam shit.

It's a shit merry-go-round. Being flocked by a bunch of shit hawks, Randy.
I think that's why they're going after it so strongly. When the Republican party was stirring everyone up about "Why won't he say it???" it became a big deal. I did agree that he should call it what it was but it even got so petty that people were mad that he called them ISIL instead of ISIS and that was just ridiculous.

But when your party, and you, have been blasting someone for not calling something that it is and then you have an opportunity to come out definitively against white supremacists and call them by name then anything short of calling them a bunch of fucking Nazi scum does seem very short sighted. Especially when close advisors like Gorka and Bannon have had ties/stories relating them to Nazis and the Alt-RIght.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Reactions to Trump’s statement on violence in Virginia
— “Mr. President – we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.” — Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., on Twitter.

— “Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists” — Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— “@POTUS needs to speak out against the poisonous resurgence of white supremacy. There are not “many sides” here, just right and wrong.” – Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., on Twitter.

— “As @POTUS Trump said, “We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation… & true affection for each other.” #Charlottesville” — Vice-President Mike Pence on Twitter.

— “There is only one side. #charlottesville” — Former Vice-President Joe Biden on Twitter.

— “Even as we protect free speech and assembly, we must condemn hatred, violence and white supremacy.” — Former President Bill Clinton on Twitter.

— “The violence, chaos, and apparent loss of life in Charlottesville is not the fault of “many sides.” It is racists and white supremacists.” — Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring, a Democrat.

— “We reject the racism and violence of white nationalists like the ones acting out in Charlottesville. Everyone in leadership must speak out.” — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican and Trump supporter.

— “We should call evil by its name. My brother didn’t give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH” — Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, on Twitter.

— “We must ALL condemn domestic terror & stand together against racism, hate and evils that if left unchecked will tear us apart #Charlottesville — Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., on Twitter.

— “White supremacists, Neo-Nazis and anti-Semites are the antithesis of our American values. There are no other “sides” to hatred and bigotry.” — Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— “The President’s talk of violence ‘on many sides’ ignores the shameful reality of white supremacism in our country today, and continues a disturbing pattern of complacency around such acts of hate.” — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

— “Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. … No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.” — Daily Stormer, a white supremacist website promoting the Charlottesville demonstration as part of its Summer of Hate edition.
 

drjones

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I think that's why they're going after it so strongly. When the Republican party was stirring everyone up about "Why won't he say it???" it became a big deal. I did agree that he should call it what it was but it even got so petty that people were mad that he called them ISIL instead of ISIS and that was just ridiculous.

But when your party, and you, have been blasting someone for not calling something that it is and then you have an opportunity to come out definitively against white supremacists and call them by name then anything short of calling them a bunch of fucking Nazi scum does seem very short sighted. Especially when close advisors like Gorka and Bannon have had ties/stories relating them to Nazis and the Alt-RIght.
exactly, but dont expect the apologists to understand this.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge

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Reactions to Trump’s statement on violence in Virginia
— “Mr. President – we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.” — Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., on Twitter.

— “Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists” — Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— “@POTUS needs to speak out against the poisonous resurgence of white supremacy. There are not “many sides” here, just right and wrong.” – Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., on Twitter.

— “As @POTUS Trump said, “We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation… & true affection for each other.” #Charlottesville” — Vice-President Mike Pence on Twitter.

— “There is only one side. #charlottesville” — Former Vice-President Joe Biden on Twitter.

— “Even as we protect free speech and assembly, we must condemn hatred, violence and white supremacy.” — Former President Bill Clinton on Twitter.

— “The violence, chaos, and apparent loss of life in Charlottesville is not the fault of “many sides.” It is racists and white supremacists.” — Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring, a Democrat.

— “We reject the racism and violence of white nationalists like the ones acting out in Charlottesville. Everyone in leadership must speak out.” — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican and Trump supporter.

— “We should call evil by its name. My brother didn’t give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH” — Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, on Twitter.

— “We must ALL condemn domestic terror & stand together against racism, hate and evils that if left unchecked will tear us apart #Charlottesville — Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., on Twitter.

— “White supremacists, Neo-Nazis and anti-Semites are the antithesis of our American values. There are no other “sides” to hatred and bigotry.” — Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., on Twitter.

— “The President’s talk of violence ‘on many sides’ ignores the shameful reality of white supremacism in our country today, and continues a disturbing pattern of complacency around such acts of hate.” — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

— “Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. … No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.” — Daily Stormer, a white supremacist website promoting the Charlottesville demonstration as part of its Summer of Hate edition.
It's almost like his party hates him.
 

megatherium

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Geez this is gonna be grist for the CNN mill for the next two years.

Full time round the clock coverage (well until the next humanitarian intervention -- then maybe go split screen?)
 

megatherium

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It'll do as round the clock fodder until the next war me thinks. Kinda like Gary Condit filled that gap pre 9-11.
 

megatherium

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Who wants to know what's going on in the world anymore anyway, the sixties are over.

Let's learn everything there is to know about these guys instead.
 
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im just happy nobody brought up trump's comments on the incident so far, then this thread might get really ugly.

im certainly not going to bring that topic up.
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People are going to be angry at the president for the statement. People want to hear him side with them. They want to hear a solution about how it was all the other person's fault.

A reddit post that is going around said the following:

>This an extraordinarily complex situation, and as such will be misrepresented and simplified by the media.
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>The Charlottesville clash was precipitated by the Charlottesville City Council changing the name of Robert E Lee Park to Emancipation Park and taking down the Robert E Lee statue.
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>The Charlottesville City Council is fully in their right to do this, and conversely individuals who disagree with the decision are fully in their right to protest this decision.
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>The legacy of the Confederacy is very complicated. In one sense the Confederacy was based on defense of the racist institution of slavery, and in another sense based on state's rights.
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>Robert E Lee believed at the outset that secession from the Union to defend slavery was not a good idea, but he found himself choosing to take the side of Virginia in the impending war with the United States.
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>For some, Robert E Lee represents the racist subjugation of African Americans, for others he represents the defense of Southern independence from the federal government.
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>There's no doubt that there were white nationalists who came to protest the removal of the statue. Their views were on display in the form of racist signs and symbols in today's clash. However, there is no doubt some who protest the removal of the statue, who don't hold racist views but see the Robert E Lee statue as a symbol of Virginia and the South and the effort to cleanse the South of Confederate symbols as a politically-correct campaign to white-wash history.
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>As for the counter-protesters, these too likely had a mixture of groups and intentions. For some, they came to legitimately protest what they see as a racist campaign to defend the Confederacy. However there is no doubt that the anarchist/Marxist group Antifa came not to protest, but to forcefully/violently prevent the legal assembly of statue removal protesters.
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>The pro-Robert E Lee statue protesters obviously anticipated Antifa blocking them so they brought shields and weapons to defend/attack and allow them to protest the statue removal. Antifa obviously anticipated the clash as they too brought shields and weapons. A recipe for disaster and thus the clash - a well anticipated and orchestrated event.
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>Lost in the clash, are the peaceful individuals on both sides who legitimately wanted to practice their freedom of speech and assembly to protest and counter-protest.
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>These complexities will likely be washed over and this will simply become a result of the Trump presidency. As the media already showing they are blaming Breitbart and Steve Bannon. This completely ignores the relatively recent phenomenon of Confederacy legacy removal.
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>No doubt, if Hillary Clinton was president we would see the same sort of clash play out again and again.
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>What's the solution? I don't know. But I feel it's important to take an honest overview of all sides in this complex situation.


As I alluded to earlier there's a hodgepodge of people in a city that's not theirs protesting counter protesting on shared sides for completely different reasons. And even just simply having the police come in break it up arrest the violent won't change the societal constructs that are playing out.

The government can't fix this. It is incumbent upon the citizenry to adjust fire (not a pun).

And as predicted, everyone is unhappy.




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