The evil lefty killed by this Nazi.
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They don't count as local Virginians, being that they weren't from Virginia. Lee also opposed slavery, like a lot of Confederate officers. The Civil War wasn't fought solely to make Africans work in a field. It was because of succession due to economic and social differences. With cotton being the sole cash crop in the south at the time, slavery was a way to get cheap labor, profits, and prop up the economy. It's a terrible truth. If they would have had government subsidies and illegal immigrant labor back then, slavery might not have been as prevalent.Oh, ok. Virginians didn't own slaves? Or do black people not count as local Virginians?
Wow. Using that logic the only locals are Native Americans.They don't count as local Virginians, being that they weren't from Virginia.
I'm torn on the issue.My personal issue is the selective censoring of history. Leave them up.
You're only seeing color, like most modern liberals. The American railroad system was built on the backs of poor Chinese immigrants. Modern agriculture on the backs of poor Mexican immigrants. When you have a group to work for pennies, you take advantage of that. Slave labor has always been the go-to in human history for the cheapest way to maximize profits. Why the American slave trade gets the most heat when slave labor had been around and more prevelent in other nations for over a thousand years? I have no idea. I personally don't agree with our history of slavery. Every man has the right to do with his life as he pleases.Wow. Using that logic the only locals are Native Americans.
As for the rest, yeah economic and social differences, like wanting to keep slave labour so they could economically dominate another race. Social differences like making sure black people stay in their place. So immigrant labour and government subsidies were the only things keeping them from using slavery? Why are sections of society worshipping these monsters?
Agreed. That would make Mount Rushmore look pretty dumb.Some of these guys were black hating assholes. Others owned slaves but I'm not prepared to say we must remove every slave owner from public display.
We'd have to throw out all of our one dollar bills and quarters.Agreed. That would make Mount Rushmore look pretty dumb.
And the nickels. - Thomas Jefferson, along with the $2 bills - if you find one of those unicorns.We'd have to throw out all of our one dollar bills and quarters.
Sad shit.The evil lefty killed by this Nazi.
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It's just an emotional response. I have a good friend who is a liberal that does the same when a political article or conversation becomes emotional. I usually don't judge people on it.Sad shit.
But I don't think it's fair to chalk it up to "Trumpism".
I'm not sure how saying Americans have exploited loads of other groups of people takes away from the exploitation of black people. This protest was about a state which celebrated the Confederacy, which fought for slavery, which is why it is taking focus front and centre in this case. But all forms of exploitation of workers by capital should be fought against, you are right.You're only seeing color, like most modern liberals. The American railroad system was built on the backs of poor Chinese immigrants. Modern agriculture on the backs of poor Mexican immigrants. When you have a group to work for pennies, you take advantage of that. Slave labor has always been the go-to in human history for the cheapest way to maximize profits. Why the American slave trade gets the most heat when slave labor had been around and more prevelent in other nations for over a thousand years? I have no idea. I personally don't agree with our history of slavery. Every man has the right to do with his life as he pleases.
Also, if you want to get technical, no one is a local of this land mass. When you legally distribute those lands, people can then become "locals". Africans forced to the colonies in the slave trade would more than likely not have called themselves local Virginians.
I have them both on ignore.holy fuck at stielar and harry rama downplaying what this guy did and not getting called out on it... what the actual fuck?
This is an appropriate response.I'm torn on the issue.
A statue is a means of glorifying an individual. These guys fought on the wrong side of history, so I can understand why people look upon them with disgust. But I also think it's important to remember the history of this nation. Perhaps it would be better to display them in a museum instead of common areas throughout our cities.
We'll have to wait to hear what comes out TBH.holy fuck at stielar and harry rama downplaying what this guy did and not getting called out on it... what the actual fuck?
"looks like he just accidentally tapped the bumper of the car in front of him and maybe that car hit a person but im not entirely sure, its really hard to say at this point"
he purposefully floored his car into a huge crowd of people and bodies were flying everywhere before he smashed into a car that was stopped in the road in front of him that he couldnt even see because of ALL THE FUCKING PEOPLE HE WAS RAMMING INTO
you might want to watch the video linked on this thread where he clearly revs his car while nobody is touching it and he isnt surrounded by a mob and being attacked and then drives into a crowd of people he can clearly see in front of his car.We'll have to wait to hear what comes out TBH.
I've seen the Reginald Denny footage too many times, if I'm driving and a mob forms around he and tries to pull me out of my vehicle I'm slamming on the gas too and god be with anyone in front of me.
It's honestly all very juvenile. Protesting over a statue that has been there all this time, but is now an issue. The statue of an American general that decided to remain loyal to his state after the secession. The reason I bring up other groups of people is because cheap labor has no color. Slave owners didn't just decide to pick Africans because they were black. It was because the victorious warlords in Africa sold the tribes they defeated to Europeans and eventually Americans for an affordable price. When abolition talks began, this threatened the southern economy because there were so many slaves working the cotton fields. This is why I say the succession and eventual war was mostly over economics. Slavery being an economical driving point for the southern states.I'm not sure how saying Americans have exploited loads of other groups of people takes away from the exploitation of black people. This protest was about a state which celebrated the Confederacy, which fought for slavery, which is why it is taking focus front and centre in this case. But all forms of exploitation of workers by capital should be fought against, you are right.
As for the legal distribution of lands, you mean the guy who stuck his flag in it first? Or the guy who killed the other guy for it? I'm pretty sure most normal people would accept that slaves living in Virginia were locals to Virginia.
I didn't watch the video because I don't like the violence. I heard a report that he got spooked and slammed on the gas and that was immediately what came to mind, but who knows maybe it was all premeditated.you might want to watch the video linked on this thread where he clearly revs his car while nobody is touching it and he isnt surrounded by a mob and being attacked and then drives into a crowd of people he can clearly see in front of his car.
I didn't watch the video because I don't like the violence. I heard a report that he got spooked and slammed on the gas and that was immediately what came to mind, but who knows maybe it was all premeditated.
How ironic that he was driving a Dodge CHARGER and will now be CHARGED with murder.![]()
Yes looks spooked, all of thoes people do.
The statue has been there a long time, don't you think black Americans should be able to walk past where it once stood and not have to look up at a symbol for the oppression of their ancestors for hundreds of years?It's honestly all very juvenile. Protesting over a statue that has been there all this time, but is now an issue. The statue of an American general that decided to remain loyal to his state after the secession. The reason I bring up other groups of people is because cheap labor has no color. Slave owners didn't just decide to pick Africans because they were black. It was because the victorious warlords in Africa sold the tribes they defeated to Europeans and eventually Americans for an affordable price. When abolition talks began, this threatened the southern economy because there were so many slaves working the cotton fields. This is why I say the succession and eventual war was mostly over economics. Slavery being an economical driving point for the southern states.
This is obviously an objective and totally unbiased representation of what happens in those events.